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Post by ensenada on Jan 9, 2005 0:12:26 GMT
I have heard people say the doors would have become a prog rock band over time, and probably a really good one. I know floyd started out in the 60's and became a huge prog band, but what about the doors?
You could see them remaining bluesy, perhaps for a few albums after la woman...but what could have this led to?
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Post by jym on Jan 9, 2005 3:32:54 GMT
Yeah, I think I could see that. R$ay had the artistic pretensions for that, one of his ideas was to come out at the Hollywood Bowl wearing some big Japanese masks but Jim nixed it. & The Golden Scarab is RAy's theme album. & when an interviewer asked Jim what he thinks The Doors would do without him his answer was that he thought they could do an instrumental album, & they did some songs instrumentally in concert Peace Frog comes to mind.
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Post by pantydropper on Jan 9, 2005 8:59:59 GMT
Yeah, I think I could see that. R$ay had the artistic pretensions for that, one of his ideas was to come out at the Hollywood Bowl wearing some big Japanese masks but Jim nixed it. & The Golden Scarab is RAy's theme album. & when an interviewer asked Jim what he thinks The Doors would do without him his answer was that he thought they could do an instrumental album, & they did some songs instrumentally in concert Peace Frog comes to mind. Well when they did Peace Frog instrumental in the Aquarius shows and BS&D that was before the Morrison Hotel album came out so i think they were still working on the song. Also, Jim made the comment about the band doing a jazzy instrumental album. makes sense too because you really don't need vocals to do a jazz album, i have a feeling the 3 Doors would have been great doing a jazz album since all of them have a background in jazz. I still see the band going toward a more bluesy style as they evolved so i assume they would have gone that route as time went on. |
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jan 9, 2005 10:33:29 GMT
As there were many times during the studio recording of albums after the first two that Jim went AWOL The Doors trio would have had ample opportunity to play jams together. We know of the Blues Jam with Lonnie Mack and the Queen Of The Highway instrumental they did during Morrison Hotel. So by 1971 they were probably tight as they were ever gonna be as a band. They could have gone down several routes if they had carried on. The most obvious for me would have been to become 'Return To Forever' or The Mahavishnu Orchestra' as jazz was heavily in thier blood so the prog jazz fusion route was most likely as it was very popular at that time. If the Howard Werth thing had come off jazz would still have featured heavily as Audience were in a jazzy vein. Howard was a strong songwriter and along with the other 3 could have come up with some half decent Doors songs. The other route was of course the blues and Ray Manzarek was a 'gifted' blues singer. Many Doors songs suited him and his solo work such as 'Downbound Train' and 'Bicentennial Blues' showed his blues roots. They could have carried on as The Doors with Ray as singer and tried to capture the mood of LA Woman and Morrison Hotel. Hell if they were stuck they could have made Jess Roden the lead singer and become The Eagles....  Luckily they just jacked it in as its debatable that The Doors would be the legend they are today had Ray, Robby and John kept going as The Doors into the 80s..... |
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Post by ensenada on Jan 9, 2005 23:31:27 GMT
interesting stuff. i quite liked that downbound train, which frikkin album was that on? so did the eagles form after the doors?
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jan 10, 2005 0:03:43 GMT
Downbound Train was from The Golden Scarab...
The Eagles formed in 69/70......
They were Linda Rondstadt's backing band and then got a deal for themselves......
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Post by ensenada on Jan 11, 2005 16:20:28 GMT
I know downbound train was also performed by chuck berry, i wonder if he wrote it? i do like ray's cover though.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jan 11, 2005 16:27:16 GMT
I know downbound train was also performed by chuck berry, i wonder if he wrote it? i do like ray's cover though. Yep Chuck wrote the song...  |
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Post by othercircles on Jun 13, 2005 23:04:34 GMT
i have a feeling the 3 Doors would have been great doing a jazz album since all of them have a background in jazz.It's called "Full Circle" dude. :-P  
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jun 14, 2005 10:27:25 GMT
Funnily enough I agree with both of you....Full Circle was indeed a Jazz based album but with other elements included and if the band had indeed carried on into 1973 I could have seen them producing a pure Jazz Fusion album similar in style to bands like Return To Forever and later guys like Brand X. Jac Holzman wanted a link up with Howard Werth from Audience and Audience were heavily into the jazzy side....Horns and woodwinds would have become a staple part of the bands sound and what we knew The Doors to be would most likely have vanished completely except for the live side. Of course we will never know but we DO know thats the direction Holzman was steering them in and from that we can make an informed assumption that The Doors would have become a Jazz Fusion outfit..... |
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Post by strangenightvstone on Jul 1, 2006 1:57:36 GMT
I have heard people say the doors would have become a prog rock band over time, and probably a really good one. I know floyd started out in the 60's and became a huge prog band, but what about the doors? You could see them remaining bluesy, perhaps for a few albums after la woman...but what could have this led to? Do you mean long jams that an hour long, no pauses for applause? A dark stage, a couch where Jim could sit down and drink/light up while singing. |
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