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Post by ensenada on Feb 25, 2005 15:48:43 GMT
 After having watched the hollywood bowl concert numerous times on DVD, I have to say i do love it for having the doors filmed in action and all that. the music is amazing, they play superbly. But I find Jim a little concervative with his actions. After having seen him flying around and acting the lovable clown on stage in various things, before i bought it I was expecting to see him being a bit mad. did jim usually perform like this? or was he possibly subdued for some reason? mind you as is said in another thread Jim would probably have prefered to play in the dark. perhaps because it was early on in their stage large gig performances he wanted to be a bit more conservative? anyone got any thoughts? |
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Post by danceonfire on Feb 25, 2005 17:44:15 GMT
Maybe he was starting to get tired of all the hype that was surrounding him.  |
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Post by ensenada on Feb 25, 2005 19:59:07 GMT
i dont think so, the hollywood bowl was early on in the doors career.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Feb 25, 2005 20:07:29 GMT
Its said that the reason he was so restrained at the gig was he was concious of all the hype surrounding The Doors knew that this particular gig was a huge showcase for The Doors and decided that the audience would not get a 'freak show' just some good music........ Perhaps a last attempt to put a brake on the out of control media circus that surrounded The Doors and show the band were artists not anarchists..... People moaned about the show because he did not dive into the audience, get drunk, swear or behave like a lunatic......no wonder he did what he did at Miami..... His view of what the band were and the view of the fans were nener going to converge....we the audience wanted insanity whilst he the singer wanted to blow our minds with his words.....   |
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Post by danceonfire on Feb 25, 2005 20:26:30 GMT
i dont think so, the hollywood bowl was early on in the doors career. It wasn't really all that early. 1968, only a year before Miami. |
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Post by danceonfire on Feb 25, 2005 20:29:25 GMT
Its said that the reason he was so restrained at the gig was he was concious of all the hype surrounding The Doors knew that this particular gig was a huge showcase for The Doors and decided that the audience would not get a 'freak show' just some good music........ Perhaps a last attempt to put a brake on the out of control media circus that surrounded The Doors and show the band were artists not anarchists..... People moaned about the show because he did not dive into the audience, get drunk, swear or behave like a lunatic......no wonder he did what he did at Miami..... His view of what the band were and the view of the fans were nener going to converge....we the audience wanted insanity whilst he the singer wanted to blow our minds with his words..... I think it's sad that they expected a freak show. I think the Hollywood Bowl is a good concert. It and the Roundhouse are my two favorites. I would rather hear his words than see a freak show. It's a shame that someone so brilliant was treated like a showroom trophy. True, he was a very good-looking man, but he had a mind as well.  |
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Feb 25, 2005 21:39:12 GMT
Jim said several times that the English Roundhouse audience was his favourite as we did not know what to expect here in 1968 so the folks who went just sat and listened....
It must have had an affect the European Tour as for the rest of the 1968 when Jim returned to the States the shows were more about the music than the madness....
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Post by stuart on Feb 25, 2005 23:22:22 GMT
What's the version of"Hello I love you" like from this gig which was not included in the show we see?.
Any Lyrical Variations?.
I thought the Versions of "MOONLIGHT DRIVE" And "THE END" on the show were spellbinding.
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Post by ensenada on Feb 26, 2005 2:05:18 GMT
It wasn't really all that early. 1968, only a year before Miami. yeh thats true. and i would much rather experience jims words thatn expect a freak show. perhaps i also expected the stereotype? but i loved the words and the emotion, so perhaps i aint all that bad  |
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Post by sparky on Feb 26, 2005 12:39:12 GMT
What's the version of"Hello I love you" like from this gig which was not included in the show we see?. Any Lyrical Variations?. I thought the Versions of "MOONLIGHT DRIVE" And "THE END" on the show were spellbinding. i agree, the end on hollywood bowl is my favourite version. wen we went to see the other side in dublin last year they played that version, i was quite stoned at the time and thought i was tripping out wen i heard it!!!!lol!! unknown soldier is deadly from that show too!! |
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Post by ensenada on Feb 26, 2005 13:01:15 GMT
hey, mister light man!
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Feb 26, 2005 13:05:50 GMT
'Hello I Love You' (which had been released as a single a couple of weeks before the Bowl gig) from the audience tape of the show is a pretty straightforward but enthusiastic rendition of the song. Jim seems pretty much into it and its a shame it never was included onthe video.... |
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Post by stuart on Feb 26, 2005 13:55:44 GMT
Rick, you gotta turn these lights way down man!  |
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Post by ensenada on Feb 26, 2005 16:31:30 GMT
oh, whata we care! This is The End!!.......... 
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Post by stuart on Feb 26, 2005 16:41:49 GMT
Uh Oh I blew it, It's a Moth!
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Post by ensenada on Feb 28, 2005 11:40:10 GMT
he aint got long to go, so we'll forgive him! |
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Post by stuart on Feb 28, 2005 11:46:18 GMT
I LOVE the extended Intro of WTMO, really sets the mood imo. Off to see Love with Arthur Lee In april, got my ticket wooo!! |
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Post by ensenada on Feb 28, 2005 11:49:10 GMT
yeh some great tunes on that concert. you know about the live version of WTMO ray's keyboard in a certain part if different to the album version. i mean it sounds superb, but i wondered why he decided to alter it for the live version!? And there is a live version of moonlight drive on the box set which has an extended end about the children in the caves, which is better than the album version....of subject there  |
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Post by danceonfire on Feb 28, 2005 12:36:51 GMT
yeh thats true. and i would much rather experience jims words thatn expect a freak show. perhaps i also expected the stereotype? but i loved the words and the emotion, so perhaps i aint all that bad See, there is hope for you. I think that's what a lot of people were expecting. Which is sad because he was so brilliant and had something to say. |
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Feb 28, 2005 12:37:43 GMT
yeh some great tunes on that concert. you know about the live version of WTMO ray's keyboard in a certain part if different to the album version. i mean it sounds superb, but i wondered why he decided to alter it for the live version!? I think songs like WTMO were always thought of by The Doors as 'musical experiences' and the fact that necessity demanded a studio version was really neither here nor there....those pieces were always changing....even into 1970 when The Doors became more 'product' than 'musical happening' with demands for LMF turning Morrison against his own audience the band tried (sometimes not always with success) to keep some of thier reportoire fresh..... The Matrix recording has versions of many established Doors tunes radically different to anything they did after fame became a millstone round thier necks and the urge to experiment with the song was pretty much with them until the end.....even Morrisons 'hated' 'Light My Fire' would come alive sometimes with the introduction of 'Fever' or bits of poetry. Like his poetry Jim would always try to give different aspects to his old songs......but as time went on it got harder and harder as the audience sought a 'show' not a performance that would stun them into silence as some of the early Doors shows managed to do...... Not much has changed even though we understand the guy a lot better today.....Doors fans trundle along to the 'show' and care little for what it actually WAS that made that show possible...... No wonder Jim got fed up..... |
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