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Post by ensenada on Feb 24, 2005 15:54:25 GMT
I was just thinking. Is it really true that Jim saw the accident involving the indians on te highway?
Or was it oliver stone making porky pies up from jims reference to the line in the song?
If jim didnt actaully witness this event, I wonder how he became so infuenced by native americans? even down to his dancing style.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Feb 24, 2005 16:44:27 GMT
Jim always claimed it happened..
"Me and my -ah- mother and father - and a
grandmother and a grandfather - were driving through
the desert, at dawn, and a truck load of Indian
workers had either hit another car, or just - I don't
know what happened - but there were Indians scattered
all over the highway, bleeding to death.
So the car pulls up and stops. That was the first time
I tasted fear. I musta' been about four - like a child is
like a flower, his head is just floating in the
breeze, man.
The reaction I get now thinking about it, looking
back - is that the souls of the ghosts of those dead
Indians...maybe one or two of 'em...were just
running around freaking out, and just leaped into my
soul. And they're still in there."
Indians scattered on dawn's highway bleeding
Ghosts crowd the young child's fragile eggshell mind.
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Post by ensenada on Feb 24, 2005 16:59:46 GMT
this is true, do you know i forgot about that passage lol  call myself a fan! mind you i am rather knackered! |
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Post by jym on Feb 24, 2005 18:36:26 GMT
I'm sure he did Janet over at LL said she looked up old newspapers to see if she could find a mention of the accident, but there were so many mentions of accidents it would be hard to find the right one. For what it's worth.
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Post by wyldlizardqueen on Feb 24, 2005 20:44:38 GMT
Jim always claimed it happened.. "Me and my -ah- mother and father - and a
grandmother and a grandfather - were driving through
the desert, at dawn, and a truck load of Indian
workers had either hit another car, or just - I don't
know what happened - but there were Indians scattered
all over the highway, bleeding to death.
So the car pulls up and stops. That was the first time
I tasted fear. I musta' been about four - like a child is
like a flower, his head is just floating in the
breeze, man.
The reaction I get now thinking about it, looking
back - is that the souls of the ghosts of those dead
Indians...maybe one or two of 'em...were just
running around freaking out, and just leaped into my
soul. And they're still in there."
Indians scattered on dawn's highway bleeding
Ghosts crowd the young child's fragile eggshell mind.Yeah, that is one of my infatuations about Jim and Doors is this..lol. (But really it is) ;)I allways love to watch Jim do the Indian Dance..I have Cherokee in me alot! But i know for Jim it was other reasons..but that"s cool:) |
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Post by sandysunshine on Feb 25, 2005 0:34:55 GMT
He's almost trance-like when he does that Indian Dance! I guess witnessing something like that when you're a child is bound to have some kind of lasting effect on a person!
Love from Sandy.
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Post by jym on Feb 25, 2005 5:52:12 GMT
..I have Cherokee in me alot!  You wanna get that Cherokee out!? |
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Feb 25, 2005 9:15:00 GMT
Its like a lot of the Morrison Myth ;D
Jim was interested in American Indians and Shamanism but was not obsessed with it...he read stuff and featured it in his student films and his poetry but it was hardly a huge part of his life.
Its guys like Ray Manzarek who have made this more than it really is and into some lifestyle thing for Jim. (Oliver Stone got his Indian cipher in the film from Ray and his phoney Messianic vision of Jim that he has been touting pretty much since the start of August 1971)
It suits Ray to promote the shamanistic side because Ray is into all that weird religious shit and needs Jim on board to sell book, film, tribute band singer etc.....
Jim incorporated his Indian dance into the bands performance once the Doors began to move into bigger halls and therfore needed to be more visual.....
I have not read of any evidence that he did stuff like that in The Doors club days.....then he was more static and allowed the music and words to be the focus of attention not his antics......
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Post by sandysunshine on Feb 25, 2005 9:41:24 GMT
I don't expect he'd have had very much room for that kind of dancing in the smaller clubs anyway!!! But when you have a bigger stage, you need to fill it. Otherwise the people at the back wouldn't even know if there was anyone there! With all the dancing and thrashing about, the Doors clearly didn't require all the special effects that later bands have come to rely on. When you have a decent showman at the front, you don't need pyrotechnics to impress the crowd with!!!
Love from Sandy.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Feb 25, 2005 10:54:01 GMT
Thats pretty much what he said in interviews and he was not a fan of the bigger halls......The Doors are one of those unique bands that come around all too rarely in music that demanded attention be paid to thier music not how much dry ice they could release or fireworks they could set off or whether or not thier singer looked good in spandex trousers...... If Jim had been granted his way Doors concerts probably would have been conducted in total darkness.... |
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Post by sandysunshine on Feb 25, 2005 11:56:27 GMT
I can only imagine what it would be like to attend a Doors concert in complete darkness!!! Well, I can only imagine attending ANY Doors concert, full stop!!! I think it would have been terrifying in the dark!!! Just listening to some songs in the dark with my headphones on is scary enough sometimes!!! But in a room full of people it would have created mass hysteria! I think Jim would have enjoyed creating that kind of chaos!!!
Love from Sandy.
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Post by ensenada on Feb 28, 2005 11:42:09 GMT
i reckon actaully being at a doors concert would be scary! mesmerizing, magic, deep and many more things. the unpredictable nature of Jim would ensure it would be scary!  |
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Post by sandysunshine on Feb 28, 2005 12:00:11 GMT
Oh yes!!! Definitely scary!!! I'd think you'd go home feeling quite klarty too!!!
Love from Sandy.
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Post by ensenada on Feb 28, 2005 13:11:49 GMT
in need of serious deklartification! |
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Post by sandysunshine on Feb 28, 2005 13:19:51 GMT
Yep! A multimega huge fucking deklart session would most definitely be in order!!! But would it be the grubby kind or other kind of dirty kind?!
Love from Sandy.
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Post by ensenada on Feb 28, 2005 13:44:50 GMT
low down and dirty baby! |
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Post by sandysunshine on Feb 28, 2005 14:00:42 GMT
Ooh!!! Give that to me again!!! I want more!!!
Love from Sandy.
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Post by ensenada on Feb 28, 2005 14:11:17 GMT
never attempted cyberin at school! LOL
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Post by sandysunshine on Feb 28, 2005 22:29:22 GMT
Cyberin?!?!
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Mar 3, 2005 17:00:26 GMT
"The first time I discovered death... me and my mother and father, and my grandmother and grandfather, were driving through the desert at dawn. A truckload of Indians had either hit another car or something— there were Indians scattered all over the highway, bleeding to death. I was just a kid, so I had to stay in the car while my father and grandfather went to check it out. I didn't see nothing— all I saw was funny red paint and people lying around, but I knew something was happening, because I could dig the vibrations of the people around me, and all of a sudden I realized that they didn't know what was happening any more than I did. That was the first time I tasted fear... and I do think, at that moment, the souls of those dead Indians— maybe one or two of them— were just running around, freaking out, and just landed in my soul, and I was like a sponge, ready to sit there and absorb it. "
Another take of the Indian story from Jim Morrison....
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