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Post by ensenada on Jan 20, 2005 15:15:42 GMT
whats this signing thingy? i havnt read previous posts..not much time. but i think its important that jim remains known as the rebel, anti authoritarian outlaw, we all love him as...he worked so hard to achieve that status, lets not take it away from him! ;D
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Post by hippieflowergirl67 on Feb 5, 2005 18:29:52 GMT
There was a girl there with her b/f and they were right in front of the stage the whole time and she said Jim never did anything at all....
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Post by stuart on Feb 11, 2005 23:33:58 GMT
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Post by ensenada on Feb 17, 2005 15:45:29 GMT
total set up by the government to bring them down! fascists!   During the dvd the soft parade, i remember jim was quized by a minister at large! the minister said the governemt were suspicious of what the doors were trying pull off etc. dont really know what year this was in, but it strikes me that the us governemt were watching their actions from the start like many other artists at the time! |
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Feb 28, 2005 9:35:55 GMT
The last time I saw him, at the Isle of Wight festival almost a year ago, he was still on trial for exposing himself. We got drunk passing a bottle back and forth backstage and he talked about listening to the testimony at the defendant's table.
"At first I thought I was guilty," he said, "but now I'm beginning to think I wasn't."
Jac Holzman
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Post by stuart on Apr 10, 2005 22:10:28 GMT
I LOVE listining to this on cd the concert, ok it may be(to me anyway) the worst gig musically they ever did but the atmosphere is electric even on cd and jim's rant to the audience is something to behold, drunk he was yes of course but he sure lets rips into the people that have come to see a Freak show.
Jim Spoke a lot of sense in his rant.....
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Post by othercircles on May 1, 2005 2:18:46 GMT
Man what is it about guitar solos that bug those courts. Anytime someone mentioned.... 'well the spotlight goes over when robbie OBJECTION STRIKEN
WTF? Thats completely relivent. It explained why Morrison was over there. Fuckin artards.
Also I loved this part in Johns testimony
Q: You had to fight your way through that crowd, isn't that a fact?
John: I sort of jumped over a lot of people and I walked up the stairs to the balcony.
Q: You weren't walking backwards, were you, during those five minutes?
John: I wasn't walking for five minutes.
Touche' lol
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on May 2, 2005 11:32:14 GMT
The whole trial wasa farce from beginning to end....the verdict was in before the bloody thing began.....the judge who was exposed as a crook was after re-election and a celebrity trial was a Godsend to him..... I honestly think Jim's team would have quashed every charge on appeal though.....  |
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Post by othercircles on May 2, 2005 19:56:11 GMT
I think its kind of funny how backwards the verdict was.. they found him guilty for what he didnt do..... and found him innocent for what he DID do (public profanity.. public drunkedness) lol
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Post by hansoggrete on Jul 24, 2005 15:25:20 GMT
Hey man it´s a great thread.
I have never read this. I think Max Fink did a good job.
And the prosecutor really out to get Morrison, all his objections.
I wonder how things got this far???
Morrison on trial.
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Post by ensenada on Jul 24, 2005 17:11:21 GMT
Jim got his cock out!!!  jim had no chance really, the authorities were out to get him come what may. the fascists didnt like to hear people telling the public the truth and insighting their consciousness....and the like! |
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Post by wtd on Jul 25, 2005 12:52:01 GMT
Morrison did it to himself. He knew what he was doing. Did he think it would go as far it went? I'm sure he didn't. But that's what we like about him. He wasn't afraid to try new things or explore the world around him. This is one time when all backfired on him. The whole trial was a sham. No justice was served. As other people have said it was all politically motivated. I remember Danny Sugerman commenting that Miami to him was a necessary step for "The Doors". Bullshit! It was a disaster. I think we all wished it didn't happen.
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Post by ensenada on Jul 25, 2005 17:26:48 GMT
yes miami certainly seriously hindered the doors. their major tour was cancelled...think of asll the cool boots that would have created...not too mention money and more fans for the band. perhaps jim was tired of touring at the time and did it on purpose to prevent the tour some how.
wasnt Detroit after miami? he seems to be enjoying that gig....and didnt the doors get invited to woodstock after miami too? shame they didnt do that..woulda helped them a lot.
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Post by wtd on Jul 26, 2005 19:01:48 GMT
yes miami certainly seriously hindered the doors. their major tour was cancelled...think of asll the cool boots that would have created...not too mention money and more fans for the band. perhaps jim was tired of touring at the time and did it on purpose to prevent the tour some how. wasnt Detroit after miami? he seems to be enjoying that gig....and didnt the doors get invited to woodstock after miami too? shame they didnt do that..woulda helped them a lot. Thats a good question. Why didn't Jim just quit. He seem like he was getting fed up with being a Rock & Roll star and talked about wanting to quit back in 68. He was definitely a person who did what they wanted, so that has me puzzled too. There is got to be something we don't know about. Maybe he needed the money. Maybe he figured I'll just finish the contract and I'll be set. The Detroit show he seem like he really enjoyed, along with a number of other shows after Miami. When he would just go up and sing and no theatrics. |
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Post by hansoggrete on Jul 28, 2005 13:40:15 GMT
I am sure he was bound to contract.
I highly doubt that Morrison consciously did anything at Miami out of the ordinary.
It was another show.
Morrison was Morrison.
The organization around him, management and record company, was too slow.
They didn´t realize that they were railroaded.
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Post by ensenada on Jul 28, 2005 17:46:25 GMT
well i think jim did do things in miami he wouldnt always do. for starters he was VERY drunk and on acid...thats gotta be a bad mix...ok so he may well normally be a little drunk at a gig, but he was seriously drunk. that caused him to have his infamous rant at the crowd, which he certainly didnt do to that extent at every concert. though, i reckon he made it easy for the authorities to point a finger at him and they needed to get him for something to slow him down. but because jim was a person who didnt give a shit about what people thought of him he just went ahead and did it...
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Post by hansoggrete on Jul 28, 2005 20:03:41 GMT
The knock-out from the press and authorities was a big surprise for The Doors.
It was just another wild show.
Morrison drunk was, I believe, not that uncommon.
All of them were dumb-founded that it blew up in their face.
The cancellation of the tour.
Jim had watched Living Theatre up to Miami.
His ranting leads back to LA Forum 14/12/68 where he also mocks the audience.
I think Morrison was around suckers in his organisation.
They did not strike back.
Remember Lennon´s bigger than Jesus remarks and Stones at the Altamont.
Much much crazier in substance than Morrison´s.
But they get away with it.
Jim doesn´t.
That guy Larry Mahoney from Miami Herald who even went to FSU with Jim is a big overlooked culprit in The Doors´ saga.
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Post by jym on Jul 28, 2005 21:56:04 GMT
Let's not forget Jim wanted out of The Doors & Ray said "no, man give it six more months" & as darkstar has mentioned in previous posts Miami was 6 months after that. Sounds pretty premeditated to me.
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Post by hansoggrete on Jul 28, 2005 22:52:26 GMT
Perhaps you are right.
But from wanting to get out and then to be on pending trial for a year and a half, get 6 months in jail, is a pretty poor deal.
Maybe Jim had told the boys no more, after the springtour 69
But it would somehow imply The 3 Doors and management and Elektra welcoming this uproar and trial.
That way Jim was boxed in. He needed the cash: So more tours and Lps.
But I don´t see that realistic.
Morrison could very simple break his contract and go else-where.
I have always wondered why Morrison wasn´t helped more at the trial.
The Doors by Sugarman: Rock´s Mike Gershman is the only article I have seen taking side for Morrison.
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Post by jym on Jul 29, 2005 14:37:36 GMT
Off course Miami woeked a little too well for Morrison, he wasn't planning on going to jail to get out fo the group. & Jim probably couldn't just break a contract & go somewhere else without being sued by Elektra for the contract & if he went to another company that company getting sued too.
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