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Post by wplj on Feb 12, 2012 20:15:55 GMT
Confirmed where? I am sure they are, just wondered what yr. source was.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Feb 12, 2012 21:43:14 GMT
Jeff Jampol confirmed it on the LL.
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Post by wplj on Feb 17, 2012 10:50:07 GMT
Ah ... been on holiday this week ... any word over at the LL about the release status of London Fog and all the other stuff that's been promised this year?
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Post by casandra on Feb 17, 2012 21:09:24 GMT
I have not read any news about it this week. For now, Jampol is silent.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Mar 16, 2024 11:54:16 GMT
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Mar 21, 2024 16:20:33 GMT
I've never seen this apart from the odd snippet. I invested a fiver and free delivery from Amazon and got it this morning. First time I have given this lot money for a long time but hell it looks interesting. A threadbare product as usual with not even a one page insert. On the back cover they do their usual lies about Jim jetting off for a break in Paris. They probably believe that shit after 40 years lying about it. They seem incapable of telling the truth that Jim was done with The Doors even after their ex manager has made that point online several times. But 'truth' would hurt their bank account and reveal what backstabbing twats they were. I scanned the cover and mix it in with my thoughts from December 2011 on this before its release which I bumped up. An interesting preview of the soon to be released DVD but one that again looks with a 20th century view. It's something I been banging on about for years now. I was banging on about it at the weekend to my big Doors mate The Holy Sha. 1971 was Morrison getting away from the Albatross of The Doors and trying to find a new beginning for himself. He had made mistakes and knew that but he must have thought there was hope for a new start. Sadly he didn't make it and the opportunistic cabal that was The Doors and Elektra went into 40 years of overdrive. These people whom I love and detest at he same time have tainted the water around Jim Morrison to the point of wiping out any chance of looking at Jim as an artist. Which he was indeed first and foremost.
I don't ever go round crawling about his ass promoting him as some kind of hero. The guy was an alcoholic woman beater and for that should have had six shades of shite kicked out of him. I don't respect that part of Morrison. But as a singer, a performer an artist and yes even a poet he had an honesty that was and still is rare in an industry full of shit and greed. Ray Manzarek, yes the same Ray Manzarek I would not piss on if he was on fire, said one of the most profound things about Jim Morrison in 1981. He said Jim Morrison was 'real' and it is that reality that Ray Manzarek has polluted with his lies and opportunism since Jim escaped to Paris to get away people like Ray Manzarek.
The Doors don't give Morrison his due they exploit the fact he is dead and cannot contradict their 'learned' analysis of the artist and man.
We have several threads that look with different eyes at these people that concludes a very different view of who THEY were and their effect on the artist known as Jim Morrison.
To have a really effective 21st century analysis of both The Doors and Jim Morrison we must first exclude The Doors from ever speaking or even having an influence on what we see and hear. Pretty radical shit maybe but The Doors are the worst people you can imagine to talk to about Jim Morrison.
the question, does anyone in the current generation (or the previous two or three) really know who he was
That is THE Question. And it's not just the last couple of generations. I was there, albeit 10/11/12, when The Doors existed. BUT my view of both the band and the men who made up that band is polluted by greed, lies and opportunism. Let alone the 80's or today's generation. Why is that? Simply because the people who have written the History do it to make a buck. They tell lies because it suits them to tell lies.
It began as soon as Jim's body grew cold. Jim hadn't actually left The Doors but was resting for a while. But these three knew he had left because they had not trusted him to go to Europe and start a new Doors with some British guys. So they made him sign an agreement that said he could not use the name without their permission. But that lie cemented the all for one Doors ethic into the psyche of Doors fans. I had it for 30 years and argued long and hard with rock fans about how different this band was.
But it wasn't true. These guys were riven by distrust and possibly even dislike. The band were pissed Jim got drunk and caused Miami. Jim was fed up of being a rock star and had asked for a break in June/July 1968. Then seen that somebody had booked a US tour for 1969 and was even talking about a 2nd European tour.
We now know that in the studio after Miami Jim was largely ignored by the other three. We have witnesses that attest to this. Jim travelled seperately to the other 3 and left as soon as he could after the bands concerts were over.
In 1968 the band showed him they were greedy by selling LMF to Buick. 43 years later Buick is still Jim's (Jimbo's) fault and the lies they told forgotten. Morrison saw his dreams of a poetic Doors shattered in 1968 with the loss of COTL and Buick. But the bands problems always blamed on Crazy Jim the piss head drunk. The artist is mentioned true but usually in conjunction with a sentence that includes Dionysus or shaman. This bullshit quasi religious persona Ray Manzarek has spent 40 years selling.
Lies, distortions and pure bullshit are what we get from The Doors Organisation. Simply designed to sell an image of an troubled artist to a generation who would think he was cool.
That was sold to my generation and probably yours. BUT it does not tell us who Jim Morrison was simply who The Doors think he was to maximise profit.
To me 40 years later Jim Morrison is still an interesting enigma. Some good , some bad, some pretty vile but also some pretty damn incredible.
The man wielded words the way a Samurai wielded his katana. There was something about this guy I have never seen or heard in 50 years of listening to rock music. It still interests me today. But the old world view of Morrison is full of lies some of which do indeed contain truths. Who do I think Morrison was considering I am talking a lot about this? I don't know and that is what is fascinating to me. But I do know he was NOT the guy Ray Manzarek sells when he opens his trap. He was not the guy portrayed in this DVD either and I have not even seen the bloody thing yet.
It's a Question that interests me a lot. I been thinking deeply about this shit for over a decade now and have been very vocal about it. To the point I have received death threats, am hated by many figures in The Doors world including some in the actual story and been banned off John Densmore's forum by John Densmore.
I consider those things badges of honour. I have endevoured to see The Doors with different eyes and that's exactly what I do.
Does that mean the music is somehow diminished by this view. Don't be daft.....I still get that chill up the back from a Krieger incursion into a Doors song or Manzarek's other worldly keyboard mastery or a Densmore drum fill or a scream from Hell vocal by Morrison.
LA Woman is one of the greatest albums of ALL TIME. THE DOORS are THE greatest band to me that has ever existed.
sadly the History of this great American Icon has never been explored by the media in a way that is deserving of their incredible genius. And the sad part is that the fault lies with THEM for that happening. Sensation over substance is something I say often on this forum. All done for effect and the profit motive.sad really.
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