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Post by ensenada on Jun 29, 2005 21:05:19 GMT
why on earth are the doors management not acknowledging the fact that it is the doors 40th anniversary?
as some of us know, they are pushing 2007 as the anniversary. true it is the anni of the debut album, but not the band. the bands anni is july 2005!! and they arent doing anything special for it. it truley looks like people are trying to ignore/change history for commercial gain..
any thoughts on this?
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Post by jym on Jun 29, 2005 21:28:26 GMT
Probably because they couldn't put together another anthology album. A conversation in Doors mangement office "no, no put Touch Me first." "Touch me? A wise guy, huh?" ray slaps Robby, "Love me two times." "how about Land ho first!" Ray pokes John in the eyes.  |
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Post by othercircles on Jun 30, 2005 20:17:44 GMT
Yea they cant sell anything to go with a 2005 40th aniversary.
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Post by ensenada on Jul 1, 2005 16:12:17 GMT
arent they supposedly re-releasing the first two albums?
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Post by othercircles on Jul 1, 2005 21:28:11 GMT
Yea they're re-re-re releasing them in 2007.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jul 7, 2005 20:02:04 GMT
Its a damn disgrace and the fans are letting the shabby bastards get away with it....they are stealing the heritage of YOUR band.....  |
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Post by jm on Jul 7, 2005 20:44:25 GMT
 That's right!!! I didn't see any other website 'celebrating' The Doors 40th!!! Even more worst to me: I didn't see a 'Hello to Jim' for his 34th anniversary-Did you? ' Best, JM
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Post by ensenada on Jul 9, 2005 11:49:10 GMT
no jochen, aint seen that either....why they are ignoring these facts, i have no idea. does make me feckin sick though. they use Jim;s imagery on the front of their album covers, posters, t shirts yadda yadda...but no mention of the guys 34th anniversary. its a disgrace. but what can we do? or as a t shirt icon once said
"WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT!?"
"WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT!?"
"WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT!?"
well apparently there is nothing we can do about it.
on anther note it makes me laugh. my girlfriends, friends boyfriend has one of those t shirts with jims face on it from river island, its says keep rockin on the front of it. he didnt have a clue who jim was...or he didnt have a clue it was jim. i expect have these muppets who plaster themselves with che guvearas image dont even know who the hell he was or what he did.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jul 9, 2005 13:20:32 GMT
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Post by theotherside on Jul 9, 2005 19:36:37 GMT
There is a thread on the LL about this. Lets scream and shout on that thread and lets see what Jeffy or Freak will do when the heat is turned up in the kitchen.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jul 9, 2005 19:54:17 GMT
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Post by jimbo on Jul 9, 2005 20:05:58 GMT
I may be in the highest of disagreement with most of you regarding the D21C but as far as Doors management I have a lot of issues as well. First, the ignoring of Other Voices and Full Circle. The albums are labeled "The Doors" and they toured as "The Doors" yet the official doors website chooses to ignore two pieces of musical work. At least RK and RM acknowledge them on their personal websites. Doors management is too afraid to sell anything without pretty boy Morrison on the cover. The whole 40 year anniversairy thing annoys me as well, since anyone who's real Doors fan knows that this is the year, not two from now. Then the whole situation with BMA doens't need to be mentioned again
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jul 9, 2005 20:10:13 GMT
Damn right Matt....those albums are part of DOORS history and should at least be acknowledged by the so called Doors management...(thats a laff a fucking chimp could do a better job)....... 40 Year anniversary.....OV/FC.....these bastards are stealing our history.....  |
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Post by jimbo on Jul 9, 2005 21:00:14 GMT
Yeah right now I'm not evening mentioning a proper release for OV/FC (though they have to have one) but at least put the damn album cover on the sites discography
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jul 10, 2005 10:23:43 GMT
For anyone even to put forward an argumanet that 2005 is not the 40th anniversary of The Doors shows thier total ignorance of Doors History.
The managment have thier own agenda as they are just a bunch of money grubbing liars that see a way to increase album sales in 2007 .....these people have NO sense of History and just want to make a few more bucks.
Ray and Robby sold out as soon as they started thier tribute band.
The Morrison/Courson allianace are just a bunch of greedy grasping hangers on who have sod all to do with The Doors and are only out to make dollars like the management.
Densmore is our only hope as he seems to have at least some sense of integrity.
Its NOT a case of The Doors cannot celebrate 40 years of the album in 2007 its simply a case that they are so greedy they cannot even acknowledge 40 years since thier own existence.
1965 Ray met Jim on the beach...The Doors were born.....a couple of months later John and Robby joined. The Doors were a four piece. A demo was made in September without Robby who joined later that month.
A contract was signed with Columbia as The Doors. Ray found the Doors bass player (his left hand) the bands sound was refined, many of thier best songs were written and they played thier first tentative gigs in 1965.
1966 saw The Whisky, The London Fog, Ondines and the Scene. They were signed to Elektra, recorded the album in the summer of 66, the sound was further refined until it was the sound we hear today.
NONE of this happened in 1967.
The Doors liar of a manager claims Danny Sugerman always saw 1967 - 2007 and thats how he gives himself away because for all his faults Sugerman was just like us...a FAN.....Danny would never have sold out 1965 and 1966 for a few bucks.
This is indeed The Doors of the twenty first century.
So wrapped up in thier own greed that they cannot even bring themselves to acknowledge the bands own history.
Full Circle and Other Voices are inconvenient because they don't have Jim and 1965 and 1966 NEVER happened because there is no product to sell on the back of it.
The Doors 1967 to 1971.......It's like saying WW2 never started until America joined in!
History is a FACT NOT a marketing opportunity.
Our band is run by deceitful liars who see Morrison as a meal ticket NOT a great artist.
Only the FANS celebrate The Doors for the music anymore. The band and the management see this great group as thier Meal Ticket......they do not think of ways to celebrate its history simply ways to make money out of its back catalogue, sell a few T Shirts and flog pretty Jim on a new book or DVD.
2007 will be a sales fest for these people not a celebration of a Doors landmark.
Only we the FANS bear the legacy of Jim Morrison anymore. We don't go to Paris looking to make a few dollars we go because we feel the need to be close to Morrison and remember his words.
A fan listens to the music out of love of the art behind that music NOT because he or she might make a anything from it.
When a fan reads Jim's poetry he or she is not thinking of ways to sell a TShirt or a DVD but reads that poetry because the words actually mean something.
Where managemnet see marketing strategy WE see art and brilliance and music to move the soul. All they see are sales figures and customers to be exploited with thier lies and deceit.
Doors management and it increasingly seems The Doors themselves are more interested in making money out of The Doors body of work than caring a toss for the significance of that very body of work.
To them its a way to make money...a hustle......to us its part of our lives.
We are being robbed of part of our lives. I don't say we should have a ticker tape parade or celebrtae with a gig in Hyde Park.....all I say is Doors management should acknowledge to the fans that The Doors were formed in 1965 and are 40 years old this year.
Then they can go out and flog thier shabby marketing crap in 2007 and i like most of you will buy thier products.
A simple acknowledgement on the Doors Official Site of The Doors 1965 to 2005.......
So maybe one of you guys could go to the LL and ask that liar Jampol this SIMPLE question.
Was a band called The Doors in existence in 1965?
An equally SIMPLE answer is all thats required.
YES or NO! There is nothing in between. If YES then The Doors are 40 in 1965. If NO then they are not!
It could NOT be SIMPLER!
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Post by othercircles on Jul 10, 2005 19:10:14 GMT
Yea I mean OV & FC are definately more of a Doors album then anything D21C will ever make without Densmore.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jul 10, 2005 22:37:02 GMT
"1965, 6, 7, 8, 9, 1970 there was a group called the Doors and The Doors tried to get out as far out as they could and take the audience with them"Ray Manzarek sitting on Venice beach at the start of The Doors: NOHGOA The Doors Tribute To Jim Morrison Video/DVD 1981 Maybe Ray was actually talking about another group called The Doors as we all know our band The Doors did not actually exist till 1967!
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Post by othercircles on Jul 11, 2005 1:03:23 GMT
Didnt robbie come along in 66? I would say 2006 should be the 40th anniversary. I don't think the doors were born when Jim and Ray got the idea. The Doors as we know and love them didnt exist until Robby entered the scene,
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jul 11, 2005 9:06:47 GMT
Didnt robbie come along in 66? I would say 2006 should be the 40th anniversary. I don't think the doors were born when Jim and Ray got the idea. The Doors as we know and love them didnt exist until Robby entered the scene, No all 4 Doors were a unit in 1965.....Krieger joined in September after the Manczarek brothers left. He wrote Light My Fire in December of 1965 after Jim suggested they needed more songs.  It does not matter which way you look at it...Jim meets Ray, John joins, first demo, first contract, first gigs, Robby joins to make 4 sided Doors diamond. 1965. EVERY Doors fan knows The Doors were formed in 1965. Its been talked about for the 30 odd years I been a fan and is in countless books, films and interviews. The management see a BUSINESS opportunity for 2007.....I do not begrudge the Doors the marketing side of things but to deny the bands history to sell a few more albums is criminal. All the bullshit Jampol and his ass lickers come out with is a pack of lies and deceit to rob fans of the 40th anniversary of The Doors because its inconvenient as they have no product to flog on the back of 1965. Tough! The Doors were conceived and born in 1965. Thier sound was defined and refined in 1965/66. Many of thier best songs were written in 1965/66. 1967 was a year they released an album thats all. Doors management are liars and they are liars because they are trying to make money. The Doors have sold out Jim Morrison for the lure of lucre......Only the FANS still remember the history of this great band. His band mates and the scum they employ to sell Morrison T Shirts only see a meal ticket and a way to make a few $$ from the fans. If you LET them win then they WILL win.....and the only loser will be the guy in the grave! But maybe he does not matter any more after all we can always buy a 40th anniversary T Shirt in 2007!  "1965, 6, 7, 8, 9, 1970 there was a group called the Doors and The Doors tried to get out as far out as they could and take the audience with them"Ray Manzarek sitting on Venice beach at the start of The Doors: NOHGOA The Doors Tribute To Jim Morrison Video/DVD 1981 |
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Post by ensenada on Jul 11, 2005 12:41:48 GMT
what i dont get is, what is so special about 2007? could they not have released the two album again this year? after all even if they are saying the albuyms were released then, the songs were written in 1965!! and performed through the following year creating the perfection as a live band...
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