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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on May 18, 2006 10:04:52 GMT
 Advert for the album.......note tour dates (many amended later) for final Doors tour in 1972..... |
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on May 26, 2006 22:54:51 GMT
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jul 2, 2006 5:01:53 GMT
34 years ago this July The Doors release what will become thier final album.....sadly it bombs.....
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Post by strangenightvstone on Jul 2, 2006 8:12:38 GMT
34 years ago this July The Doors release what will become thier final album.....sadly it bombs..... What does bomb mean? Is that when an Air Force F -16 drops the leftover product of Full Circle (5000 copies of vinyl) on a mosque in Iraq? |
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jul 18, 2006 11:06:20 GMT
I think those people have enough problems without that.....  Joking aside its a bloody good album musically with some amazing jazz based Doors music......just let down by lacklustre lyrics and some pretty tired vocals......... It's weird as they spent so much time making a cover that was unique but seemed to spend less on actually making a half decent job of the songs. It would be nice if more Doors fans gave it as listen and tried to hear it without comparing it to the Jim era as there is some wonderful music by these 3 guys on this disc. I agree with the comments made by supporters here that The Doors were more than Jim but his loss seemed to suck the life out of the band and they seem very listless on this album....devoid of ideas lyrically and going through the motions vocally.... Jim was indeed right that these guys should have explored the instrumental side more.....but sadly it was not to be as Full Circle was ignored and even though the band had a lucrative contract with Elektra for another couple of albums this was indeed The End..... |
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Post by thebadcowboy on Jul 18, 2006 11:19:18 GMT
i listened to this album a few times actually had to force myself to listen to it after the first time and i just could not get into it at all..... just dosent seem like a doors album at all to me... and the vocals are absolute ass..... i found the same with other voices...... just my opinion ...... having said that i'm gonna seek out the cd now and play it again to see if it sounds any better.....  |
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jul 18, 2006 11:38:12 GMT
The trick is to turn the vocals off in your mind and just listen to The Doors music which is damn good........Other Voices was not a bad album lyrically or vocally but FC is pretty dire in that department......
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Post by cobriaclord on Jul 18, 2006 18:13:19 GMT
Maybe they can release it instrumentally
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Post by ensenada on Jul 29, 2006 11:23:53 GMT
well the advert for their tour is pretty cool to be fair. dont rate the album much though, i love other voices, but full circle is pants.
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Post by nick on Aug 2, 2006 23:33:45 GMT
Could never get into this album. Tried again a few days ago on reading this thread and attempted to turn off the lackluster lyrics, but the music wasn’t enough to overshadow it, however, I dig Ray’s voice ( and can’t stand Robbie’s ).Have Tightrope Ride on from Other Voices, the only thing I’ve hard from that album, but I think I’d enjoy that one. As for Fullcircle, I'll maybe delete it off my comp.  |
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Aug 3, 2006 10:21:12 GMT
At least you gave it a chance mate which is all The Doors can ever ask of their fans...........dismiss the album by all means but at least give it a listen before you do......and you did ...... so well done Nick!  |
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Oct 2, 2006 12:38:04 GMT
www.vinylavenue.com/The_Doors/Full_Circle/VinylAvenue.com \\ The Doors \ Full Circle  $14.99 (1CD) Complete digital replica of original LP! New factory pressed disc (not a CD-R!) packed in deluxe mini-album jacket sleeves with original vinyl artwork (including sleeve and disc) in miniaturized form! Very beautiful, qualitative and hard to find edition for real collectors! Ray Manzarek sometimes echoes Morrison's authoritative vocal style, and the band tries out a variety of different approaches on this second trio album, but the songs just aren't up to snuff, and Manzarek just isn't Morrison. When he tries "Good Rocking Tonight," you can't help thinking what Morrison could have done with the same material. Source: allmusic.com
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Oct 7, 2007 14:19:28 GMT
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Feb 17, 2011 7:15:39 GMT
Full Circle is a good solid example of what The Doors were good at musically.
Even though it lacked lyrically and vocally and considering The Doors made a huge mistake in getting female backing singers to back up some of their vocals it is still worth a listen.
The Doors began recording this album in February 1972 and during breaks in their tour schedule would keep coming back to work on it until it's release in July 1972.
It contains several tracks worth noting.
Mosquito is an infectious Robby Krieger track that contains some nice guitar and Verdilac an interesting if insane Ray number.
They do some nice rock numbers harking back to their roots in Hardwood Floor and Good Rockin' and a rather bizarre long number to finish with Peking King & The New York Queen.
It also contains the worst ever track associated with The Doors in It Slipped My Mind.
It is dissapointing that they never included the B Side Tree Trunk which is another interesting silly little Doors whimsy but overall for all it's faults of which it has a lot it's a half decent final album from The Doors trio.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Mar 17, 2011 10:23:28 GMT
This album, like all the others from The Doors, brings me a lot of memories...In mid 1972 one of my brothers (a big Doors`Fan) and me were friends of one of the families who lived in the same neighborhood. Our friends had at that time a very good collection of Rock albums. So, when this album was released, they bought it first, the Mexican edition, and we listened to it and particularly I liked it a lot. In September 1972 I went to a record shop with my father and I saw the Import Copy (made in the U.S.) and I asked my father to bought it. He did it. This first U.S. edition had the bonus of a zoetrope, not longer available in later editions. Unfortunately, I was 7 years old then, and my father took the zoetrope and put it inside another record of his great collection of records (which I can`t remember which it was), so the zoetrope`s "existence" remains in mystery since then! (I still can`t find it!). The album remained in our collection until one day my brother lent it along with several Doors`albums to a fellow employee in his job and this man stole it in the early eighties! So, with this album being out of print in the U.S. since the mid seventies, it was until 1982 when I saw it again in a record shop, made in Germany, that I bought it again, along with "Other Voices". This German Edition is very good in sound and cover quality, but it didn`t include the zoetrope anymore! Now, about the album: After the release of the "Other Voices" album, The Doors toured again, this time recruiting additional musicians (Jack Conrad and Bobby Ray), having some success and good reviews, but without the same success as years before. So, they recorded this album, producing it themselves (without long time recording engineer / co-producer Bruce Botnick) in Los Angeles. After the release of this album, in July 1972, they toured again until mid September 1972, when they played a concert in Los Angeles, which was their last concert as a band. Then, in late 1972, they went to London looking for a new singer, but it seems that Manzarek didn`t think that it was a good idea and decided to leave the band: "I thought that it was the time to close The Doors". It seems that the title (suggested by Manzarek) and cover design of this album showed that at least for Manzarek, "it wasn`t right for the band to play without Jim anymore", so the title was like a prediction for their future, like an unofficial statement of their split which was confirmed in early 1973. In London, Krieger and Densmore recruited new musicians and tried again as "The Butts Band", releasing two albums, without much success, until their split in 1975. Manzarek started a solo career. The Trio worked again to provide the music for Morrison`s pre-recorded poetry for the "American Prayer" album, which was released in late 1978. It seems that for "Full Circle" the band wanted a more "light" approach to the music style, so this album is a bit more "commercial" in sound in comparison to "Other Voices". Song by song: "Get Up and Dance": released as a single in the U.K., with a B-side song called "Tree Trunks" which is now a "rarity" only available in Bootlegs. "Get Up and Dance" is a commercial song, sung by Manzarek, with female backing singers. "4 Billion Souls": a song composed and sung by Krieger with very good organ / guitar melodies and arrangements. "Verdilac": a good Jazz-Rock song with good sax by Charles Lloyd. A "mysterious" song in sound and in title (Verdilac? What does it mean?). "Hardwood Floor": another good song by Krieger but sung by Manzarek with the female backing singers, and good harmonica solo by Krieger. Densmore plays good drums. "Good Rockin`": an old Rock and Roll song cover. "The Mosquito": a funny song with "spanish lyrics" sung by Krieger. The main thing in this song is a very good instrumental section, showing very well the talent of each musician, including bass player Leland Sklar (a very known session musician who has played and recorded with a lot of musicians, including the underrated Phil Collins). "The Piano Bird": the best song in this album, composed by Densmore with Jack Conrad who plays rhythm guitar in this song. Again, it has a very good instrumental section with very good contributions by all the musicians, particularly Manzarek in the electric piano, Densmore in the drums, and a very good flute played by Charles Lloyd. Again, the Jazz-Rock / Latin Music influences shine in this song. One of the best songs they recorded as Trio, IMO. "It Slipped my Mind": composed and sung by Krieger, with very good guitars by him. "The Peking King and the New York Queen": composed and sung by Manzarek, with very good keyboards arrangements. It also has the female backing singers. The lyrics are about peace between West and East, a theme very common in those years. The recording and production of this album is better than in "Other Voices", IMO. The band sounds better, like they gained more confidence as a Trio. Krieger sang much better than in "Other Voices". Unfortuately, this album was even less successful that "Other Voices", and maybe it was one of the reasons to split the band. But, IMO, the band "closed The Doors" with a very good album. In www.youtube.com there are some videos of The Doors playing live for the "Beat Club" T.V. programme in Germany, in 3- May-1972. They played "In the Eye of the Sun", "Ships w/ Sails", "Tightrope Ride" and "I`m Horny , I`m Stoned" from the "Other Voices" album, plus "Verdilac" (titled "Vertilac" in that website) from this album, and "Love Me Two Times", with Jack Conrad (bass) and Bobby Ray (guitar, percussion, vocals). These videos show that the band was very good playing the music, but the vocals are not very good, IMO. Manzarek sings well most of the time, but Krieger`s vocals are not very well. Maybe the problems with the vocals were the main problems after Morrison died, so they decided to split the band. Guillermo Prog Reviewer
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on May 4, 2011 20:52:41 GMT
The Doors: Full Circle
The new Doors album Full Circle.
It comes complete with a cover that would put the Citine Chapel to shame plus a zeotrope.
A zeotrope?
Well it's the elborate cardboard thing you must assemble (but only if you're mechanically inclined)
When placed on your turntable with alight source above it, you can see a short film on the subject of evolution.
Actually it's a graphic demonstration on the basic technique of cartoon animation and it's interesting.
The record trying to sound like Jim Morrison ain't.
Montreal Gazette September 16th 1972
That to me is a perfect example of someone reviewing a record without actually listening to it. I don't believe for a second that the reviewer heard one second of the album because if he did listen to it and dismiss it for sounding like Jim Morrison then he is obviously stupid.
It's got a lot of faults but sounding like Jim was not one of them.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jul 20, 2011 10:49:32 GMT
The Doors-Good Rockin' Placed here because it's not a Doors original and as such could not be placed in the lyric section. All the other Other Voices and Full Circle tracks can be heard there. A nice little version of the song with some cool Robby guitar and a nice Manzarek vocal and piano and lests not forget Densmore drums which are as good as ever on this number.
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Post by eks74014 on Jul 21, 2011 15:54:49 GMT
bought the album during my mid 80's exploration of the band; it was the WEA Midprice release, manufactured in Germany... being a kid still at the time I knew very little about the band and so FC to me has always been part of the band's output, just like any other of the albums; think I even got this before "The Soft Parade"... nowadays, listening as an adult (ahum!) I tend to focuss on the instrumentations which are masterful in most places; just as we've come to expect from the 3 Doors musicians - powerhouse John, guitar wizard Robby and whirling Ray... it's just a shame that this terrific musicianship was too often burried under mediocre to downright terrible lyrics and arrangements, aimed at Top Of The Pops... probably the most un-Doors song here is also a favourite of mine: "Verdilac"... it's weird and mysterious and it's got this cool freestyle jazzy thing to it... but what the hell is a Verdilac?... well: " Verdilac is a medication commonly known by the generic name Verapamil, it is a calcium channel blocker used to treat angina (chest pain) or high blood pressure. It is also used to treat and prevent a rapid heart rate. Verdilac (Verapamil) may also be used to treat other conditions as determined by your doctor." without doubt the worst Doors album to collect dust on shelves the world around but not bad!... it's got its moments, inbetween many a flaw; I must admit... playing this to fellow Doors fans indeed has most reach for pulling the plug, my advice to them, as well as to anyone for that matter: listen to this without thinking of it being a Doors album, don't think of Morrison or even the Ray-sung blues rockers from the band's heyday... it's the same group of musicians, minus one and they have evolved... for worse, sadly but this is an album capable of bombing the unexpecting music fanatic/connaisseur with wonder and delight... I had someone transfer my two 'Doors MKII' vinyls onto CDR in the 90's and then some time later there was this semi official (was it?) Russian CD release, literally squeezing both albums onto one disc... I still cherish this, the albums are on my iPod and I do turn people's eyes and ears to them now and again... it's about bloody time Elektra/Rhino come clean with an official release, make it a proper 2CD set together with "Other Voices", some possible outtakes and that awful b-side oddity called "Treetrunk"... do it now guys, now that Bruce Botnick is still game... whispers: I might even buy one more retrospective box set if it would be the only chance at this - please don't tell my wife  Attachments:
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jul 21, 2011 16:14:26 GMT
The Russian release was a pirate I do believe and nothing to do with WEA.
A Verdilac is a Hungarian, Russian or Rumanian vampiric creature. All three cultures talk of such a creature.
It's not a common word for a vampire but has been used (or a derivative of the word) in several novels I have read.
You see it in the Napoleonic War vampire story Twelve by Jasper Kent. excellent by the way!
The voordalak - a creature of legend; tales of which have terrified Russian children for generations. But for Captain Aleksei Ivanovich Danilov - a child of more enlightened times - it is a legend that has long been forgotten. Besides, in the autumn of 1812, he faces a more tangible enemy - the Grand Armée of Napoleon Bonaparte.
City after city has fallen to the advancing French, and now it seems that only a miracle will keep them from Moscow itself. In desperation, Aleksei and his comrades enlist the help of the Oprichniki - a group of twelve mercenaries from the furthest reaches of Christian Europe, who claim that they can turn the tide of the war. It seems an idle boast, but the Russians soon discover that the Oprichniki are indeed quite capable of fulfilling their promise.
Unnerved by the fact that so few can accomplish so much, Aleksei remembers those childhood stories of the voordalak. And as he comes to understand the true, horrific nature of these twelve strangers, he realizes that they've unleashed a nightmare in their midst...
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Aug 9, 2011 15:46:28 GMT
 Full Page Billboard Advert 1972 |
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