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Post by othercircles on May 18, 2005 23:47:29 GMT
Cool pic
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Post by othercircles on May 19, 2005 0:26:03 GMT
But even a good singer couldn't do much with a line like "To roam is my infection," and this band could use a good singer. C+
It's "To wander is my infection" you dickhead rock critic asshole. He's probably living in a fuckin onebedroom apartment yanking off to Jim Morrison videos right now.
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Post by jym on May 19, 2005 2:28:47 GMT
There's such a big difference between roaming & wandering?
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Post by othercircles on May 24, 2005 21:36:58 GMT
Yeah.. as Data would say "one is the correct lyric..... the other is not"
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Oct 27, 2005 16:52:02 GMT
This is Other Voices 34th anniversary .....it was released in late October in the US and early/mid November here in the UK.......just thought it worth mentioning...  |
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Post by wyldlizardqueen on Oct 27, 2005 19:10:37 GMT
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Post by jimbo on Oct 28, 2005 0:00:47 GMT
Tightrope is a superb alum, a great group effort. Side one is, imo, is much better than side two. In the Eye of the Sun is a great tune. Variety Is the Spice of Life really grew on me, especially the summer. The lyrics aren't great "you got a full house baby, I've got four of a kind, I'm watching six different televisions all at one time" but its still a fun song. Tightrope Ride is without question the best post-morrison song, and is better than a lot of the work done with Jim. You can feel Ray letting his grief out in his singing. Ships with Sails is a close 2nd in the best post-morrison songs. Had Jim sung it I bet it could have been pretty big. Side two drags a bit, Down on the farm starts off nice but the chorus is pretty weak. Gets a bit too, funky. I'm Horny; I'm Stoned is a much better song than one would think just reading the title, and is Side 2's best song. Wandering Musician is a fair song, if I'm not mistaken Ray digs this one. Hang on to Your Life ends the album on a bit of a weak note, its a good song in its in right but Robby's not the best singer. Those are my thoughts
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Post by ensenada on Oct 28, 2005 11:22:01 GMT
i dunno, think there are better post morrison tunes than tighrope ride. and although ships with sails is crackin, its not one of my faves. i prefer the other songs on the album. its a really catchy album in all.
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Post by othercircles on Oct 29, 2005 23:32:43 GMT
Manzarek took over on vocals and although he’d done some of the singing in the early days his only previously recorded vocals were to Willie Dixon’s ‘Close To You’ on Absolutely Live and ‘Don’t Go No Further’ as the flip side to ‘Love Her Madly’.
What about "Take It As It Comes" ?
And you really can’t call a song ‘I’m Horny I’m Stoned’ and expect to be taken seriously.
If you're an asshole that doesn't bother listening to the song before you make judgments maybe.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Apr 28, 2006 11:32:32 GMT
"After the shock of Jim's death wore off a little we got togetehr and talked about the future. Actually we had been thinking about the future for some time. Our contract with Elektra had run out and Jim wasn't sure what he wanted to do. He went to paris to do some writing and some thinking. It was one of those awkward periods. We didn't know what was going to happen. After Jim's death we decided that we did want to stay together. We felt we had a lot of good music left in us. Besides we were friends and knew each others moves musically. When Ray does something on the organ for instance Robby and I know just where he's going. You don't give up something like that. We decided against bringing in a new vocalist. No matter how good he was people would say he wasn't as good as Jim. Then fortunately Ray stepped forward and started singing."
John Densmore to LA Times October 26th 1971.
September 1971
The Doors begin recording thier eighth album selecting as the title 'Other Voices'......
In a later interview The Doors discussed their method of composing the music.
Ray...'everything gets shared pretty equally. Somebody will bring a song in with some lyrics or without lyrics and we'll jam and get an idea. You know it's really the way its always been......we've always done the same thing. Everybody gets to contribute what they feel like.'
Robby.....'Because we are the same three musicians and we play our instruments the same way. It's the same style. But it's just the three of us now doing all the lyrics....so it's a little different in its philisophical base'
'Doors Discuss Style'...The Flat Hat february 25th 1972
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Post by othercircles on May 2, 2006 20:47:11 GMT
Hang on to Your Life ends the album on a bit of a weak note, its a good song in its in right but Robby's not the best singer. Those are my thoughts
Just thought I'd make a note.. that track is mostly Ray singing. Robbie does a little backing tho.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on May 4, 2006 15:29:14 GMT
Other Voices ( 1971 ) 7
In the Eye of the Sun / Variety is the Spice of Life / Ships w/Sails / Tightrope Ride / Down on the Farm / I'm Horny, I'm Stoned / Wandering Musician / Hang On To Your Life
It isn't widely known that The Doors carried on without Jim. Which in itself may seem to suggest something about the quality of their post-morrison output. There is at least one gem on this album, though. Well, a couple actually. Let your ears not your mind do the talking on this one, is my advice. Well, The Doors without Jim? Crap, right? Wrong. At least, wrong as far as this album is concerned. Musically, they carry on from where they left off with 'LA Woman'. Well, more or less. They certainly don't sound as confident and the mixing seems lacklustre. Ray sings the majority of the songs here, by the way. He does the best Jim impersonation he can, although it's readily apparent he's nowhere near in the same class. I can bear to listen to him, though. The lyrics are decent enough too, which may come as a shock to many of you, I know. One thing that's obviously missing then, the vocals of Jim. What's less obvious is his role as a decision maker in the creative process. I guess Ray took it upon himself to lead proceedings a little more than he did before. This is all by the by. This is a Doors album without Jim. Is it any good? Short answer is yes. It's pretty good and actually, woefully underated. Elektra would do well to get this and the album that followed out on CD, methinks. Anyway, what are these gems I was speaking of then, case you want a sampler before tracking down a copy of the album in full, which currently might be expensive for you? Well, 'Ships Without Sails' is the one. Seven and a half minutes of musical glory of the type everybody knows The Doors can do. A glorious rhythm, good lyrics, passable vocals. A great Doors track actually that had Jim sang on it would today be hailed as a minor Doors classic, of that i've absolutely no doubt. 'Tightrope Ride' is a rocking track of the type that fans of 'LA Woman' and 'Morrison Hotel' will quickly recognise. Along with the superb 'Ships With Sails', this is the other true highpoint of the record.
On the down side, 'I'm Horny, I'm Stoned' begs to have been sung by Jim. Certain matters begin to conspire against the remaining doors. This is a song that really needed a better sound than the thin sound heard here. The vocals, if they'd been Jim vocals would have lent this song a comedy value in a good way, instead of the bad way the song has comedy value as presented here. It's not all that bad, but it's a track I can certainly live without. Jim was meant to be the dark-lord, yeah? Well, funnily enough, I do miss his humour on this album. Anybody listening to the likes of 'I'm Horny, I'm Stoned' will know exactly what I mean. 'In The Eye Of The Sun' is decent Doors, 'Variety Is The Spice Of Life' pretty much the worst Doors song i've heard to date. Of the remaining songs, 'Hang On To Your Life' almost sounds like Jim Morrison in places, 'Wandering Musician' has some lovely musical passages. Controversially then, I enjoy this album slightly more than I do 'The Soft Parade'. The vocals are an obvious point to concentrate on but the album, with the one or two obvious mis-steps, is as good a collection of actual songs as we could realistically have expected from them at this stage. Most importantly, ignoring any leniency I may be giving the other three guys, it's a pretty enjoyable listen.
Adrian's Album Reviews
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Post by othercircles on May 4, 2006 15:47:24 GMT
I can't see it :-( It just says Oops photo missing.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on May 4, 2006 16:26:30 GMT
I can't see it :-( It just says Oops photo missing.  It was this shot mate..... |
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on May 5, 2006 22:36:43 GMT
The Doors: Other Voices
Year Of Release: 1971
Record rating = 5
Overall rating = 9
Not as bad as you're told, but still, they're dead as a duck without Jim.
Best song: I'M HORNY, I'M STONED
Track listing: 1) In The Eye Of The Sun; 2) Variety Is The Spice Of Life; 3) Ships W/Sails; 4) Tightrope Ride; 5) Down On The Farm; 6) I'm Horny I'm Stoned; 7) Wandering Musician; 8) Hang On To Your Life.
You gotta forgive them. After all, what were they to do? Everybody needs money, and everybody needs fame, and after all, it ain't true that Manzarek, Krieger and Densmore were nothing but Jim's backing band. Jim was responsible for the band's image and the lyrics and, well, parts of the melodies. But the band's musical core were Ray and Robbie, after all, and, seeing as to how much I really enjoyed Ray's moody keyboards and Robbie's menacing guitar tone, I decided to give this one a try when I saw a copy - anyway, in a few years this album will probably only be found in the biggest music archives and nowhere else. And, well, my opinion is somewhat mixed. Probably, if I hadn't heard all the negative reviews of this album and hadn't been told by everybody that I should stay away from this album like from a poisonous viper, I would have reacted likewise. But my expectations were initially set as low as possible, and thus the record did not really disappoint me. Of course, anybody expecting something on one caliber with Morrison Doors need not bother. This is music without any edge to it - it isn't dark or moody, it isn't apocalyptic, and none of the songs grab you by the throat like ol' Jim could. Moreover, there aren't really any memorable original melodies here - the album leads us further into the direction that they'd begun to take on L. A. Woman: roots rock & blues, that is. That's all very well, but we don't love our Doors for these things, now do we?
But, on the positive side, none of these melodies strike me as being offensive. The playing is still very much Doors-ish: Densmore thumps and stumps as usual, Ray still can play a mean organ, and Robbie's guitar lines are still intriguing, especially on 'In The Eye Of The Sun' and 'I'm Horny, I'm Stoned'. Their voices can't hope to bring memories of Jim, of course, but they aren't bad singers by any means, just not so powerful or expressive; and while we're at it, Ray's aggressive roar is at times very similar to Jim's, so with a little bit of strained effort you might even disregard the difference. And, well, some of the album is just fun. The fact that it was released half a year later than Woman does not mean that the band members were going to get rid of the memories of Morrison as quick as possible; this only means that the album is largely based on outtakes from the previous one, and maybe if some of this material were sung by Jim, we'd come to appreciate it as much as the regular stuff.
The rave-up opener, 'In The Eye Of The Sun', for one, is a blues tune that sounds as if it was inherited directly from the blues tunes on Woman, and it's a good one, even if the melody is far less original than the one on 'The Changeling'. But it's still constructed pretty well, and that precious "Doors sound" is here all right, because I don't feel bored while listening to it. And the atmospheric epic 'Ships W/Sails' is a painful try to recreate something melancholic and plaintive, a try that almost works, in fact. The only complaint is that it could have been produced better: the actual melody sounds very much like a corny take on some country shuffle and completely misses the 'mystery' vibe that's so crucial for the Doors. Put on some echo and some ominous-sounding guitars, eliminate the double-tracked vocals and voila - a minor classic is ready. No 'Riders On The Storm', of course (which the song tries occasionally to emulate, especially in the instrumental part), but I guess that goes without saying.
The other stuff, however, mostly hints at the period where the band were going to release a 'music anthology' album. There are some strange excourses into country ('Variety Is The Spice Of Life'), bebop ('I'm Horny I'm Stoned') and R'n'B ('Tightrope Ride') that don't sound Doors-ish at all. Not bad, though, and 'I'm Horny I'm Stoned', with its self-deprecating lyrics and funny guitar riff, is actually the best track on the album, like it or not. The only thing is not to pay attention to the lyrics: disregard them completely, please. One look at the lyrics sheet to 'Variety Is The Spice Of Life' will be enough for you to grow a bias the size of a belltower.
There are occasional serious complaints, of course - 'Down On The Farm', for instance, is made out of two completely different parts that hardly can be joined together (moody minor atmospheric ballad + upbeat country march? You tell me!); and the record finishes on a rather low note (the dissonant, erratic 'Hang On To Your Life' that's probably destined to serve as a substitute for the usual Morrison album-closing epic, but goes absolutely nowhere with all its multi-part gimmickry). But that certainly doesn't mean that you can't force yourself to like it. You can, if you give it a try.
Only thing is, what for? The uniqueness and the freshness are gone together with Jim. Fans of Ray and Robbie will certainly get something out of this, but casual Doors fans, worry not. On the other hand, if you're that kind of Doors fan who respects them for being a good "roots-rock" band and has no inner respect for the inner world of Morrison, Other Voices might turn out to be a pleasant surprise.
George Starostin from Only Solitaire.com
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Post by othercircles on May 6, 2006 2:06:24 GMT
I think Alex posts these things just to keep me posting.... lol
the album leads us further into the direction that they'd begun to take on L. A. Woman: roots rock & blues, that is. That's all very well, but we don't love our Doors for these things, now do we?
For me actually.. in a big part... yea... I do.
The rave-up opener, 'In The Eye Of The Sun', for one, is a blues tune that sounds as if it was inherited directly from the blues tunes on Woman, and it's a good one, even if the melody is far less original than the one on 'The Changeling'.
Uh... actually the changling is a total ripp off of james brown. The main riff and Jims little vocal at libs especially... "get loose"
if you're that kind of Doors fan who respects them for being a good "roots-rock" band and has no inner respect for the inner world of Morrison, Other Voices might turn out to be a pleasant surprise.
Uhm... I have plenty of respect for morrison.... what kind of thing is that to say? If you like this then you're disrespecting Morrison? That makes no sense.
And I dont see the similarity between ships with sails and riders on the storm so many reviewers point out. They both used a fender rhoads electric piano and have a drawn out solo... maybe a similar tempo...... thats where the similarities end to me.. the style, key, chords, melody and production are all very different.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on May 10, 2006 18:21:52 GMT
 Mexican Edition |
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Post by othercircles on May 11, 2006 0:13:44 GMT
Otras Voces rules. haha
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on May 19, 2006 14:53:29 GMT
 Other Voices LP   Other Voices 8-Track tape version |
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Oct 1, 2006 10:59:03 GMT
Other Voices was released 35 years ago this October so for the next few weeks lets hear your views good and bad about The Doors minus Jim Morrison. They managed two albums...one good...one not so good and four tours.....they received critical acclaim for Other Voices even if the Doors fans never gave the album much of a chance in 1971 and were warmed to by thier audience for carrying on without Morrison. For me the band showed a great deal of courage when they played a set that consisted of near 90% new songs and shied away from playing Morrison penned tracks in concert. The Doors deserved a bit more credit than they were given by fans in the 70s and the music they produced deserves better today from fans and the band themselves..........its criminal that the two albums are even today pretty much ignored by everyone so for the month of October lets celebrate The Doors MkII......... What direction do YOU think the band would have gone in if they had carried on after Full Circle? What could have the doors become?Should the band have carried on at all without Jim Morrison in 1971? 35 Years On....should The Doors have carried on?Could an effective Doors replacement have been found for Jim Morrison in 1972/73? Could Jim have been replaced in 1972?
What has been the best Post Jim Doors moment for YOU in the last 35 years? Best Post Jim MomentCheck these links Vote for the Post Jim albumsFull CircleTightrope RidePost Jim Singles |
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