The Soft Parade 'Nude'?

[jym]

& there is a difference between The Soft Parade & the Beatles album. The Soft Parade is the artistic vision of the group, the Beatles at that point had fractured & John Lennon let Phil Specter take the raw tracks & add "the wall of sound" to it.

[ensenada]

i really like the soft parade....more so now. its a great experiment with different sounding music. doors critics just wernt sure of it because it strayed from the precious "doors sound". but for me it does have the doors sound, especially in songs such as wild child...it aint the same sound as things like people are strange etc etc, but then if a band never changed and experimented, then it would never evolve and die, if it kept kickin out the same sounding tunes. doors fans would love it probably, but it wouldnt win them any new fans. and tesoft parade is the only album my missis likes because it doesnt souns as doorsy as the others....well not to her

[othercircles]

I hoped they would never go down the Beatles road of milking the recorded work for ever drop of money they can get out of fans

Where have you been?

And actually.. don't even get me started on the beatles. Ive been listening to them a good 15 years. Let It Be Naked is making the album what they intended it to be in the FIRST place. A live, no dubs album.

The only reason it wasnt realeased that way in the first place is because for one... Ringo had to leave in February.. so everyone was rushing to get the project done in only a month. (January 1969) This includes, writing, rehearsing and recording a brand new album. This rush, combined with the pressure of every moment being filmed made for a stressful environment.

It was not their breakup album because they made another one after that. Abbey Road. Let It Be was incomplete really but by the time abbey road was out and everyone got back to the LIB project... THEN they were 'fracturing' and they figured the easiest way to cover up the bad playing was to just fork it over to someone else and let them lavish it with orchestration.

Now... Let It Be naked stripped the crap off.. and made it what it was always supposed to be. Only now they have the technology to edit little blunders like everyone else now.

So... just for future reference.

[TheWallsScreamedPoetry]

Yes thats true they now have the technology to do all sorts of things but that does not mean they should do it......Orange County Suite is a case in point.....as a bit of Jim poetry its quite good but adding The Doors was a mistake in my eyes.
American Prayer was an overall decent experience as a one off but I dunno if I'd like to see another nor would I be pleased to see Doors albums altered to suit whatever selling point was in vogue that day.....maybe TSP would sound better without the brass but there is hardly a ton of it on the album anyways and 'Who Scared You' (which is for me part of TSP anyways) works well with the brass so who's to say Morrison was not OK with the orchestrations on his work.......
Wishful Sinful sounds good with the addition of brass and orchestra...as do the other Krieger songs.......OK it was odd to see The Doors go down that road but it was an effort to do something different......fair enough if they wanna add the brass-less versions as an extra to a remastered TSP but to release the album as some kinda 'Let It Be' clone would be pathetic for me.......its of novelty value is all as TSP went out in exactly the form The Doors wanted it to 30 years ago......all these ideas are just marketing wheezes to make a shitload of money for people who have been living off a dead man since the mid 70s......
The fact that the three Doors recorded output this last 30 years has been conspicuous by its abscence is an indication of how they realised that 'Milking Morrison' was more profitable than actually making new music....by all means lets hear the music that is stashed away in the vaults but fucking with history just to make a point is a marketing wheeze too far.....

[othercircles]

Orange County Suite is a case in point.....as a bit of Jim poetry its quite good but adding The Doors was a mistake in my eyes.

Well I agree sorta... they shoulda done a better job. Morrisons origional demo is a bit iffy with the timing with big pauses.. which the doors decided to fill with randomness. It made for a pretty boring recording. The sort Jazz feel of the keys and brushed drums doesnt help either. Now.. take "whisky, mystics and men" That was awesomely done... but from the TSP boot I heard.. it seems that wierd cirus keyboard was part of the origional recording.. a demo ray and jim made i guess.

They aught to have done more of his singing songs instead of just the dry poetry. Like "Bird Of Pray" It can be done.. especially with Doors money. I managed something with my friggin PC (altho Im not happy with my own playing is why i never posted it) So they damn well coulda come up with something for it.

[cobriaclord]

I love SP. It's my favorite album but only because of three songs: Shaman's Blues, Wild Child, Soft Parade. ~all by JDM
I dont know where these songs have strings and horns but i am open to anything

[jym]

No, Robby's songs have the strings Jim's don't.

[cobriaclord]

Yeah, and Robby's songs suck so who cares?

[TheWallsScreamedPoetry]

I thought I might drag this up the pecking order.
Anyone got any views on this.
When this was discussed before all across the Doors net I was not in favour of messing with TSP and still hold that view but mine is simply one opinion so what's yours?

[casandra]

For me, TSP is my least favorite album. I think it is an irregular album that it lacks some cohesion between the songs. I don't think removing the instrumentation and overproduction it could be improved. This album there are songs that I like (Wild Child, Touch Me, Shaman's blues), but there are other songs (Tell all the people, Do it) that in my humble opinion, these songs aren't the best lyrics written by Morrison or Krieger.

And as for The Soft Parade, I think it's a good song, but I guess that something is missing if I compare this with The End or When the music's over, and this is surely that it emerged in the study and not for performances every day as liked Jim. In addition, the musical part in the middle of the song has always seemed to me some similar to a song titled "Black is black" by Spanish group called Los Bravos, whose lead singer sang in English and the song was a hit in 1966. I don't know if the melody was original or Los Bravos copied it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqgwnv0HCk8