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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Apr 10, 2005 9:10:30 GMT
The Doors went through four distinct phases in thier career: Acid Indecision The Blues In The Shadows producing eight albums that could be construed as two examples of each. Most ignore the two albums made after Morrisons death even though they had some merits but which is the best album from each of the four periods in Doors history? AcidThe BluesIn The ShadowsI have modified things slightly to include the post Jim albums if anyone wants to express an opinion on them....
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Post by jym on Apr 10, 2005 15:04:37 GMT
The height of the indecisive period! Waiting just a bunch of songs hastily thrown together, a couple of shinning moments to be sure, but a flawed work. & while Soft has some misses the hits are better than on Waiting.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Apr 10, 2005 15:15:42 GMT
Yeah I chose TSP not because I thought it better than WFTS but because I thought it led the band to the conclusion that The Blues was where they needed to be.
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Post by jym on Apr 10, 2005 15:18:54 GMT
Isn't the blues where we all need to be? I don't know what that means but I just like the sound of it.
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Post by ensenada on Apr 10, 2005 21:05:49 GMT
i love a lot of the stuff on TSP - wishful sinful, wild child, shamans blues and the soft parade are great tunes. but waiting for the sun gets it for me being an altogether great album.
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Post by jym on Apr 10, 2005 22:32:12 GMT
Like Love Street, Summers Almost Gone, & Wintertime Love? the very definition of elevator music! & Spanish Caravan was nothing more than a transitional vehicle.
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Post by ensenada on Apr 11, 2005 17:49:56 GMT
elevator music!? you got a temperature dude? spanish caravan is a sweet tune!
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Post by jym on Apr 11, 2005 19:12:50 GMT
Finally you took my bait! (or bat as I originally typed) Yeah, Spanish Caravan, Robby plucked it from some Spanish guitar exercise book so much so that when it was released they had to pay royalties to the relatives of whomever wrote it.
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Post by ensenada on Apr 11, 2005 22:29:42 GMT
bloody bat! ah shuttuppa yah face!
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Post by wtd on Apr 15, 2005 18:42:21 GMT
I like "Waiting For The Sun" better than the "Soft Parade". The Doors had some of there best songs on "Waiting For The Sun": "Hello, I Love You", "Five to One", "Not to Touch The Earth" & "Unknown Soldier. Plus Jim was still into making music, unlike the "Soft Parade" album where Jim didn't really want to be a Door anymore. Waiting for the Sun album could have been really huge if they would included the whole "Celebration of the Lizard" and not just "Not to touch the Earth"section. Even so, I still like the rest of the songs on the album. The "Soft Parade" has some good songs too, but "The Doors" had seem to lost something on that album. The magic wasn't there as in the first 3 albums. I believe it was because Jim wasn't into the music at that time when they made "The Soft Parade".
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Post by eressie on Apr 16, 2005 6:37:57 GMT
IWaiting for the Sun album could have been really huge if they would included the whole "Celebration of the Lizard" and not just "Not to touch the Earth"section. I agree 100%, that is one of the things I mostly wish for had been on an album. TSP has a few songs I like, such as TSP song itself and Wild Child, but excuse me for being honest, I can´t stand the horns and strings, I want the simple basic stuff, that is when they sound the best. WFTS has some great songs, like the ones you have mentioned and I also like that they included My Wild Love, it´s things like that that make the Doors so special.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Apr 16, 2005 9:11:57 GMT
I think the horns complement Robby's style of songwriting rather well and I quite like the effect. TSP album is pretty much Paul Rothchild looking for his own place in rock history by producing a Sargeant Pepper.....I dunno why he needed to as he had already produced a Strange Days so was there already. Why The Doors would want to emulate a bunch of deadbeats from Liverpool has always been a bit beyond me......The Beatles just nicked Gerry & The pacemakers act and became famous ...they stole a ton of ideas from superior W Coast bands who were already psychedelic and became more famous. The Doors nicked no ones ideas and went against the grain and could have dissapeared into obscurity as a result. They were innovators and did not need to take ideas from anybody. Sadly Paul went a bit mental on TSP and its a mess because of it. Jim would not play Pauls games and it shows.....an inferior band would have been done for after TSP but Jim and the boys were made of sterner stuff........I am of the belief that it pissed Paul off when they went on to do Morrison Hotel and it was received with delight from critics whilst his meisterwork TSP was laughed at......maybe thats why he passed on LA Woman......
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Post by jym on Apr 16, 2005 12:07:58 GMT
I find it intersting most people are responding to the two albums from the indecisive period, the other albums are clearly better but these are the two getting the most hits.
I agree Alex, I always wondered why they would think they needed "a Sgt Peppers" album when they had Strange Days I think the most artistically satisfying album.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Apr 17, 2005 10:24:38 GMT
I find it intersting most people are responding to the two albums from the indecisive period, the other albums are clearly better but these are the two getting the most hits. . Maybe its because we wanted so much more from these albums .......... Related Threads On This Board...:- Soft Parade 'Nude' threadThe Doors album reviews thread
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Post by othercircles on Jun 12, 2005 18:37:29 GMT
Waiting For The Sun.
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Post by darkstar on Jun 20, 2005 12:57:36 GMT
My choice of these two albums has to be "Waiting For The Sun." Even though I was kid in the 60's I remember clearly the images shown on nightly news broadcasts. The lyrics of "Five To One" fit the images of the demostrations that were happening not only in the States but worldwide.
"The Unknown Soldier" has special meaning for me. Once again while watching the nightly news images would be shown of the caskets draped with American flags as they were off loaded at Andrews Airforce Base. Intermitted with the images a list of names would appear of those who had died or were missing in action in Vietnam. Several of my classmates lost a family member and also my neighborhood was in mourning for soldiers who had lost their lives in Vietnam. These images whether off the tv or in my own neighborhood were a constant reminder of what was going on in the world around me.
In 1972 I started wearing a POW/MIA bracelet that I wore until 1976. I purhcased it for $2 in my intermediate school. Each bracelet was inscribed with a solider name who was either a POW or MIA in Vietnam. My person's name was Maj. Edwin J. Atterberry who was shot down in 1967. Years and years later when I got a computer I went to the POW/MIA site and found that he had been tortured to death in a Vietnam prison camp.
When the "Dance On Fire" video came out in 1987 I saw the "Unknown Soldier" track was accompanied by a video it was an exact duplicate of my memories from 1968. Also the film footage combined with the stock war footage showing Jim being executed on the beach was to me an extention of the torture and executions taking place on a daily basis in Vietnam.
These images and events that happened around me as I was growing up forever last in my memory. I didn't experience the so-called "Summer Of Love" all I experienced was death, buildings being burnt to the ground in major cities, protestors getting beat down in the streets and jailed. In 1967 and '68 the U.S. was a very violent place. The proof is in the images. Open any Life magazine in those days and violence and destructiion abound in the captions and photos compared to the limited number of images depicting a few months of the so-called ' "Summer Of Love."
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Post by jym on Jun 20, 2005 14:16:03 GMT
& you know I thought we'd never have to see lists of dead soliders in small dirt war again.
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Post by ensenada on Jun 20, 2005 20:56:05 GMT
its funny how my fave doors songs sort of go in a cycle. at the moment 5 to 1 is rapidly becoming one of my faves.. what a tune. its interesting to know about those bracelets. it seems that the media in the 60's focused on the images of war and pain. its funny that the doors displayed this in their lyrics and music...they were true to reality in a way...look at this pain the lyrcis could say "this is what is really happening in the world!". the authorities probably hated this more than the bands that were crying for free love and shit like that
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Post by weiland on Jun 20, 2005 21:40:10 GMT
yeah crying for free love then and now running a mayor firm making millions.....
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Post by silvermoon on Jan 22, 2006 12:45:44 GMT
Waiting for the sun has some great songs on it. Five to one, Not to touch the earth, The unknown soldier... unbelievable songs! Only Wintertime love doesn't get me at all. The soft parade is a whole different sound but with a masterpiece like the tittle song it's hard to miss it. I also love Wild Child, Easy ride and Shamans blues. The change in style definitely shocked the fans, when I heard it there was a bit of a 'huh, what where they doing??' feeling in me. I learned to appreciate it a lot and listen to it quit often.
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