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Post by wplj on Jul 21, 2011 7:55:05 GMT
Not that interested in SP nude. It would be neat to hear the tracks with strings/horns stripped of all that, but it's not something I lose sleep over. Hoffman won't be working with the 2006 remixes. He will be working from the ORIGINAL 2-track master tapes. Should be interesting. I don't own any of the original mixes on CD anymore (save the 2000 Best of the Doors with Mosquito), so I look forward to it. Hey ... at least the music is all still out there and we're all still listening to it and talking about it! Do you listen to a little Doors on a daily basis? When I get deeply into a new artist, I pretty much play their stuff almost exclusively for MONTHS. Drives my wife batshit! 
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jul 21, 2011 9:16:31 GMT
I have never listened to The Doors on a daily basis since the early 70s and even then probably didn't. I am into TOO much music to listen to ONE band all the time. Just this week I have been listening to Evanessence, The Waterboys, Iron Maiden and This Picture with some 60s stuff thrown in for good measure. I am like you in the respect that when I get into a new artist I will indeed play them repeatedly over a week or so. In the 70s I would buy a new album and take a week to hear it as I might not get past side 1 for a couple of days or maybe like a track so much I play it repeatedly not being able to get past it for maybe a day. Most of my mates were the same. That's how we all listened to music back then. we were in no hurry.  Nowadays I don't listen to the Doors much at all. I don't really need to.  This year maybe a coupla dozen times not counting Paris. I listened to SD all the way through a couple of months back but mainly just pick my fave tracks. The album I have heard most this year is Other Voices as I been making threads about the lyrics and music and just happen to have been listening to that a lot this year. I had it on last week even. I still have the original CDs but just use the cube or the 40 year mixes when I listen to the band. One of the old guys here corrected the speed and remixed FC and OV in his home studio and made a really great fist of it so I got a good copy of them as well. Mostly I will pick a band for the day and listen to them. Sometimes I pick and mix depending on my mood. I listen to Folk, Blues, Goth, all shades of rock and a little classical now and then. I particularly enjoy bands with female vocalists. My best ever Doors cover is a Goth band called Rhea's Obsession who do a great End Of the Night. I liked it so much I got their album.  Now and then I might have a Doors day but there is too much to listen to for me to spend everyday on them. I agree about SP nude as I never favoured it without the strings. I don't like messing with History. It's like saying Stairway To Heaven might sound good with a banjo in it  I doubt the Doors would ever do it anyway as there is no profit in it for them. As you say The Doors are really lucky as 40 years on they still get talked about. A lot of really great bands were not that fortunate. I used to talk about all sorts of music in the 70s and 80s but now it's mainly The Doors. They interest me on so many levels. Never quite come across a band like them. Doubt I ever will.
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Post by wplj on Jul 21, 2011 11:20:21 GMT
Yeah, there's certainly a lot to discuss re: The Doors. On more levels than just the music. Glad I got back into them. I probably would have eventually, after I bought The Future Starts Here: The Essential Doors Hits at the end of 2009 ... but certainly not to the level of near obsession being in a Doors tribute band has caused!  Good times, good music, good playin'. I can dig it! 
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Post by wplj on Jul 21, 2011 11:24:00 GMT
I myself listen to all sorts. Mostly rock, jazz, old country, some classical and some pop. I tend to favour 60s - 90s with rock, 20s - 70s with jazz (mostly from 50s onwards). Favourite jazz artists include Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Ornette Coleman, Thelonious Monk, Bill Evans, Weather Report, John McLaughlin ... on and on ... Rock: Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Neil Young, Frank Zappa, Kiss, Jethro Tull, The Doors, Cream, Buffalo Springfield, CSNY, etc, etc. But right now ... mostly listening to The Doors ... work related ... 
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jul 21, 2011 11:30:27 GMT
Never felt myself obsessed with music but I do take it very seriously as an art form. I consider rock to be on every level as serious as the classical snobs take their music. I don't consider it pop music as most of what I listen to is not remotely popular and never even was in the 60s and 70s. I have always discussed music with people on a bit higher plane than fan worship. Thats why Doors discussion was interesting to me as it was a bit better than what colour trousers X or Y wore on TOTP on June 4th 1968. Sadly Doors discussion collapsed a few years back when the war between the tribute band fans and the rest of us was going on. Never really recovered and I do miss it. Here is a nice level of discussion between a few people but would be nice if a dozen or so more took an interest. I will try and promote the forum on FB a bit more and maybe attract a few from that. Fans seem afraid to express an opinion about The Doors. The Official Forums don't like opinions but here we are fine with them. Does not mean they won't get argued with but people are free to expound any opinions they want about anything Doors related.  Never liked Jazz I am afraid...or opera. the rest I am fine with. I am a big folk fan. Like anything from Lindisfarne to Fields Of the Nephilim Love Zepp, Tull and Neil...hate the beatles  have done since 1962 for some reason.
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Post by wplj on Jul 21, 2011 12:32:11 GMT
Ha! (re: Beatles). Fair play. Can't please everyone ...
I am trying to get the other guys in The Strange Doors on here, but no luck so far, except for Grant, but he doesn't seem to participate.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jul 21, 2011 14:23:16 GMT
Thats quite common here and pretty much every Doors forum. I don't mind people looking but don't tolerate those who join and never log in again after the first 5 minutes. I have removed about a dozen of that type as I don't want them here. Anyone who joins and uses the forum is fine with me. I would prefer they expressed an opinion but at least they log in and look around. We had nearly 600 members here once but only about 20% ever posted once or more. Thats why I opened it to guests. If they wanna gawk fine but if they wanna talk they are more than welcome to join in. 
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Post by wplj on Jul 21, 2011 15:12:39 GMT
Yeah, I see a lot of guests here ... god, it's just you and me on this thread now ... I hear crickets ... 
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Post by eks74014 on Aug 25, 2011 14:01:00 GMT
French pre-order sheet for the 1996 re-release.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Sept 26, 2011 13:09:15 GMT
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Post by wplj on Sept 26, 2011 17:22:05 GMT
Nice one! 
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jan 9, 2012 12:44:15 GMT
 Here is a review I did in my Scorpywag Fanzine from 2004. The Doors: Legacy:- The Absolute Best Sometimes I wonder what is wrong with being a Doors fan and most of the time the answers comes back that being a Doors fan brings a great deal of enjoyment as well as a great deal of frustration. Why do the remaining members of the band and their organization spend so much time ‘milking’ their fans. Surely a lack of respect? That and probably they think we are so dumb we will buy anything. Probably true but that does not mean the world needs another ‘Best Of The Doors’ album. The most cynical aspect of this release must be that The Doors promised an out-take disc which would feature the studio version of ‘Celebration Of The Lizard’…..and not for the first time they lied as the COTL studio version is now part of another Greatest Hits compilation. COTL studio version was always the ‘Holy Grail’ of Doors collectors and when a brave Doors fan defied the hoarders and released a rough cut to the general Doors public we finally got to hear one of the most enigmatic of Doors tracks in the studio which may or may not have given us an insight into the psyche of James Douglas Morrison poet/lyricist extraordinaire. Expectations were high when the Doors rumour mill alluded to another lost studio version of COTL that was superior to the circulating tape….sadly like most Doors rumours it was unfounded. So in order to get Doors fans to buy yet another version of the songs they probably own a dozen copies of the ‘cheeky chappies’ at Doors central came up with the wheeze of selling us an overpriced compilation album with the sole selling points that it has a nice new booklet and a rare bonus track….shades of ‘Less Than Essential Rarities’ and ‘Woman Is A Devil’. Jim Ladd waxes lyrically about the band in the booklet and the same version of COTL that has been circulating for years turns up (better quality yes!) as part of ‘The Absolute Best Of The Doors’. Now this version is very interesting but ‘Absolute Best’? They are having a laff…. The reason its here is to get us to buy the bloody thing...not because it’s a sublime Doors moment. Some cool digitally re-mastered Doors tunes yes its true but nothing new to shout about except COTL which should have been released as part of an out-take disc as a ‘thank you’ to Doors fans for supporting the band through thick & thin….some fucking hope. Scorpywag rating: music 10/10…... concept 1/10 Only because of COTL...a cynical attempt to screw us again AP.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Feb 3, 2012 15:12:10 GMT
'Best Of The Doors' (Vvarner esg 755962569-2) *****
Not content with re-issuing the individual albums from the recent boxed set in miniature 'album sleeves', Elektra have now salted down the best of the double CD 'Best Of' first issued in 1985 to pack a 79- minute single disc. A bonus platter includes an interview with Ray keyboard player Manzarek and, horror of horrors, dance mixes of `Riders On The Storm', but it's hard to believe anyone with an interest hasn't invested already - nor that this tawdry presentation would inspire anyone else. Coming next: the Jim Morrison replica funeral urn with built-in beatbox?
Michael Heatley Classic Rock Magazine November 2000
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Aug 16, 2013 8:42:08 GMT
 Rare Italian cassette
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Post by wplj on Aug 27, 2013 13:56:05 GMT
That's a weird one ... like a sampler for the 1985 Best Of LP ... Very strange ...
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Post by wplj on Nov 20, 2013 14:10:09 GMT
Alex ... haven't seen this mentioned on the board, so I thought I would post a link ... Coming out 25 November in the UK ... www.amazon.co.uk/R-Evolution-Deluxe-Blu-ray-Doors/dp/B00F0JHEU0/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1384956175&sr=1-1&keywords=The+Doors+R+Evolution+Blu+rayIt's a collection of television clips ranging from original promo films to live TV appearances, two of which will be interesting to have on an official release in good quality: Malibu U Light My Fire (in colour with outtakes!) and The Crystal Ship on Dick Clark's American Bandstand. The extras include a 45-minute doc on The Doors' TV work plus a Ford Motor Company training film, Love Thy Customer, featuring (mostly) instrumental music by The Doors ... from 1966! I had no IDEA they made any other pro recordings prior to their record contract with Elektra. I think this would have been made around the time of their London Fog engagement ... Anyway, I posted this here as I figured it counts as another compilation. I will definitely be getting it. Be nice (for me, who only owns Live At The Bowl '68, Mr. Mojo Risin', and Soundstage Performances) to have all this stuff in one place ...
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Nov 20, 2013 18:12:08 GMT
Yeah saw that mate a month or so back. will be nice to get good quality clips from the TV shows. The Ford training film has been known about for decades mate. It was a musical piece made in May 1966 and features a bit of The Soft Parade in it. The band recorded it by viewing the film. Some of us questioned Jampol about it on Densmore board a few years back. He said they still had it so it seems he was not lying for a change. Will be cool to hear.
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Post by wplj on Nov 21, 2013 10:43:20 GMT
A bit of TSP? Wow, that'd be cool, if it is true. I did see somewhere on the net that most of it is completely original material (i.e.: none of it was recycled in future Doors tunes/recordings) except one bit near the end that is supposed to sound like an embryonic version of one of the tunes on the first album ... can't remember which one at the moment. Well, you learn something new every day!  This item is already on my xmas wish list ... it's out on Monday apparently, but I won't get it until I see what happens at xmas. If I don't get it, then I will order it. Deluxe version, even.  I really wonder if, with just John and Robby left, we will start to see some quality unreleased material from the band (audio and video) on a regular basis as opposed to constant recycling of the six Jimbo LPs? To be frank, having never heard the Matrix bootleg(s), I am happy with the Matrix CD I currently own, but would welcome a better sounding release with the running order of the gig restored ... But I would be more interested in a London Fog release ... if they only have the one reel, they can maybe tack it on to the end of an upgraded Matrix release. Who knows?
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Nov 21, 2013 15:06:57 GMT
According to On The Road the 'catacombs, nursery bones' section of TSP opens the recording. Or an early version of that. I may actually buy a copy. But I might just download a copy free as well. Or I might do both  Giving these people my money is not high on my agenda these days. I will get a copy whichever I choose and will enjoy watching it. Perhaps now that arcehole Manzarek is dead we may see some decent releases. The London Fog in November seems to have sailed and once again more lies from these people. The Proper Matrix sounds awesome from the few 30 second clips I heard a few years back. Way better than the bootleg. But we may get a Xmas release of the best of The Doors tribute to Ray Manzarek  Who knows with these people.
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Post by wplj on Nov 21, 2013 16:16:14 GMT
Well, we've got R-Evolution for the xmas season this year ... There are rumblings of Matrix and/or LF in 2014 ... but then there are ALWAYS rumblings ...  Here's hoping we see some quality material in the future ... oh, and put Aquarius, Detroit, Philly and New York back in print!
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