The Doors A Collection Box Set 2011

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The Doors A Collection 2011



Not content with stabbing those of us in the back who bought the Cube by releasing a cheaper Long Box shortly after,
this was another kick in the teeth for their fans.

Released in 2011 I saw it in HMV for £15.
I paid £80 for the Cube but at least this did not have the useless 'Essential Rarity'
so that should have knocked a penny from the cost.

At least this did not have a rare track to make us buy it but the sheer greed of these people is incalculable.















The booklet

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Released July 11th 2011

ALBUMS LIST: The Doors, Strange Days, Waiting For The Sun, The Soft Parade, Morrison Hotel, L.A. Woman.

6CD Box set at an amazing price.

Rhino UK is proud to announce the release of The Doors - A Collection. A 6CD retrospective box set of the first six legendary albums from The Doors.

With an intoxicating, genre-blending sound, provocative and uncompromising songs and the mesmerizing power of singer Jim Morrison’s poetry and presence, The Doors had a transformative impact not only on popular music but on popular culture. Their debut album The Doors in 1967 showcased the band’s controversial form of dark, brooding rock, an antithesis to the popular Californian sunshine pop of the 1960s. Followed by Strange Days, Waiting for the Sun, The Soft Parade, Morrison Hotel and L.A. Woman The Doors continued to make iconic albums which would maintain their influence on popular music to this day. Tragically The Doors run was cut short with the death of Jim Morrison in 1971, 40 years ago this year (3rd July).

This collection packages the complete anthology of The Doors studio albums with Jim Morrison. It features the 40th anniversary mixes of the tracks, remastered by The Doors and Bruce Botnik, with the original artwork in replicated paper sleeves.

I guess they just could not resist releasing all the albums again a la the Doors cube in paper sleeves with the 40 year mixes.
A perfect way to remeber Jim Morrison 40 years on by flogging the six albums again a mere four years after the last time they flogged them
If they had included Full Circle and Other Voices it may have had some merit but that would never happen so it doesn't

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I mentioned this on the Steve Hoffman forum: I don't think this release is for "us," ie: hard-core Doors fans. Jampol has said it's for supermarkets, etc ... I think it lists for £17, is that right? Yeah, it may seem crass, but if it gets someone into the Doors on an impulse buy, is that at all bad?

The original mixes are getting released next year ... it will never end, will it? Always the same thing with a new angle ... I will be interested in the original mixes box next year ... I will be EXTREMELY interested if they include a disc (or 2) of all the original single mixes/versions. THAT would be something to write home about!

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I saw this in Middlesbrough HMV yesterday for £19.99.
This is rather annoying as why is it that the fans of The Doors never benefit from a reasonable price but have to pay top dollar every time. Then the so called new generation or Jampols Children (now that IS irony) as they can be known as get the cheaper option.
Obviously rhetorical as we know The Doors are certain we are such dumbasses we will buy the things straight away and they can make a killing with high prices then draw in the waverers with a cheaper option after the dickheads (ie US) have paid a fortune.

I paid 80 quid for those six albums in paper sleeves plus the useless Essential rarity disc. Oh and a half decent box. Now people can buy it for a quarter of that price.
Hell I am not whining about it like some pussy but it is irritating how these assholes take advantage of our devotion/stupidity and give the cream to people who are not committed fans like we are.

All topsy turvy and annoying....

[wplj]

Yeah, but these versions don't have the bonus tracks, do they?

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Neither did the cube I paid 80 quid for.

[wplj]

I can't really think any Doors fan who has all the records would buy this.

I have to admit, though, I was tempted until I found out there were no bonus tracks (I am currently lacking physical copies of the 2006 remix CDs for MH and WFTS). Nice way to get it all in one shot ... but, alas.

Anyway ... never mind this release ... I wanna hear the LAW reissue!

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I have bought this stuff too many times now to do so again.
I used to be a collector and bought anything these bozos put out. But they take the piss and that Jampol maggot has them chucking this out every year practically.
Re-issues and Best Ofs.
Even the media have got sick of Doors records being re-released again and again.
One guy I saw started his review with something like'not another fucking Doors best of'.
Overkill is eroding the fanbase.
How much money do these idiots want?

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this first caught my eye at the Champs Elysees Virgin Megastore (or Fnac) on July 4 and for more than a week after it was advertised heavily on a classic rock type of radio station here in Belgium... "to commemorate and in honour of Jim Morrison's 40th Anniversary"... bollocks!

so it's the 40th Anniversary mixes, in vinyl replica edition and no bonus tracks this time... what will be next?... for Jim's 70th Birthday in '13: the original masters, in individual jewel cases, with the bonus stuff and probably an additional disc, some best of the 40th Anniversary mixes?... geez...

I admit: it's a cool fairly low priced box, a neat way to start a journey into Doors land for the latest generation of fans - bless them and thank the heavens for the tiny miracle that 40 years onward this band and their music keep attracting the likes of youngsters, turning them into devoted Doors fans like they did me back in the early Eighties.

So okay, it's yet another sad re, re, re, re, re, re-release but clearly not aimed at us longtime fans; the good news this time being that there's not that one single unreleased thingy attached to it, forcing us to buy anyway.

Having said that, I still think it's wrong to scrap the 40+ year old masters from the commonly available catalogue and to replace them with the 40th Anniversary mixes... most of it is abso. fab. and I enjoy them a great big lot but I rather see it as a treat, a bonus thing on the side... they should be offered as an (optional) extra to the Doors' music in its initial incarnation instead of using them as a replacement for the band's legendary musical output.

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Yes indeed thank heaven that they did not include a rare track to force us to buy it like they did with that disgusting Essential Rarity con or the Legacy bullshit.
Just go to the JamInc site that Jampol uses for all his other activities and you will see the philosophy of the 21st century Doors.
It is the absolute antithesis of what Jim Morrison was about.
Designed to ensnare the next generation with lies and bullshit and endless revamps and face lifts.
Jampol sets it all out there as he explains the fundamentals of his branding of famous artists.
This is the reason I utterly detest this person and am 100% opposed to pretty much anything he does and says.
The Doors are not a brand to me they are over ¾ of my life.
Not that I am saying I have a Doors obsession, as I don’t. I love hundreds of bands and artists but I find The Doors the most interesting and the one I talk about most.
They were like many bands part of my growing up and beyond.
To me rock music is serious music. It’s not ‘pop’ that loses it’s power whenever the next big thing comes around.
I take my music as serious as any of the classical set do and consider what I listen to as relevant as any Beethoven or Mozart.
It cannot be branded like a tin of corned beef as it is multi layered and full of different levels which can be peeled back and discussed with intelligence in the same way a 200 year old classical piece can.
From Enigma to Iron Maiden to Fields Of the Nephilim to Wishbone Ash to The Doors and with a huge number in between I do not take this music lightly and am appalled when I see some idiot try to brand the bands I love and even those I don’t.
For me Jeff Jampol is the worst thing to ever happen to the Doors but their greed is fed by his ability to make cash for them so they allow him to do this.
It’s a shame and simply a sign of the times sadly.

We discuss just such a proposition here on the forum.

The D©©®s.....Band or B®and? ....you decide......

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Aug 3, 2011 22:06:39 GMT @eks74014 said:

this first caught my eye at the Champs Elysees Virgin Megastore (or Fnac) on July 4 and for more than a week after it was advertised heavily on a classic rock type of radio station here in Belgium... "to commemorate and in honour of Jim Morrison's 40th Anniversary"... bollocks!

so it's the 40th Anniversary mixes, in vinyl replica edition and no bonus tracks this time... what will be next?... for Jim's 70th Birthday in '13: the original masters, in individual jewel cases, with the bonus stuff and probably an additional disc, some best of the 40th Anniversary mixes?... geez...

I admit: it's a cool fairly low priced box, a neat way to start a journey into Doors land for the latest generation of fans - bless them and thank the heavens for the tiny miracle that 40 years onward this band and their music keep attracting the likes of youngsters, turning them into devoted Doors fans like they did me back in the early Eighties.

So okay, it's yet another sad re, re, re, re, re, re-release but clearly not aimed at us longtime fans; the good news this time being that there's not that one single unreleased thingy attached to it, forcing us to buy anyway.

Having said that, I still think it's wrong to scrap the 40+ year old masters from the commonly available catalogue and to replace them with the 40th Anniversary mixes... most of it is abso. fab. and I enjoy them a great big lot but I rather see it as a treat, a bonus thing on the side... they should be offered as an (optional) extra to the Doors' music in its initial incarnation instead of using them as a replacement for the band's legendary musical output.

Don't know if you were aware, but the original mixes will be reissued next year, with the 2006 remixes going out of print.

(This isn't a joke, I'm completely serious!)

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Yeah I knew they were gonna do something like that....I read Jampol blathering on about it on LL.
He milks this ruthlessly and makes a lot of money for the people he reresents but he erodes the fanbase and does a lot of damage that is not apparent at first.
Take me for instance. I been buying Doors stuff for over 40 years but won't anymore because of this kind of thing.
But of course I get replaced by newer fans so in his eyes thats progress but if fans like me stop wittering on about The Doors is that good or bad?
Who does that serve?

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Well, one day we'll be dead and gone.

Dead people don't buy albums.

Gotta hook the younger people.

I totally understand WHY Jampol is doing what he's doing. I don't LIKE it, but I UNDERSTAND it. I think he's gone way OTT with the re-issues and best ofs.

If it were me in charge, I would do this:

Take EVERYTHING out of print.

Take the remaining three Doors, place them in a room, smack them around a little bit.

After the smacking, I would put forth this proposal:

Reissue the catalog (stay with me now, people!) in the manner that Pink Floyd and Paul McCartney are currently doing. Here it is:

Over the period of a year or 18 months, reissue each album chronologically as a deluxe edition (only one option, no multiple versions, etc ... I'm sick of that shit!) including the original album in mono (where applicable) and stereo, the 2006 remixes, all relevant single versions, all previously released bonus tracks and anything unreleased worthy of inclusion. Deluxe packaging with unpublished photos, new, thoughtful, John-Robby-and-Ray-fucking-come-clean liner notes, plus original album/label artwork reproduced. Also, each release will include a DVD with any relevant video (promo clips, TV appearances, etc), and the 2006 5.1 mixes.

In Concert to be reissued with new liner notes/photos (also, if possible, include single version of Gloria).

An American Prayer reissued with the 1995 bonus tracks, original libretto, new notes and a DVD with 5.1 mix (plus any spoken word outtakes worthy of inclusion, and single versions of Ghost Song ... and whatever the b-side was).

Other Voices and Full Circle to be reissued. If any singles from those albums were different mixes, they will be included as well, as well as Treetrunk.

All Doors best ofs in print to be taken OOP immediately. Budget line versions of 13 and Weird Scenes Inside the Goldmine to be reissued on CD. These will remain the only Doors comps in print.

All the rest of it (ie: Bright Midnight) can be relegated to iTunes.

That's what I would do. A boy can dream, right?

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I did not say I did not understand why Jampol and The Doors do this I simply question their method which I think dilutes the integrity of The Doors rather than serves any positive purpose.

I say integrity of The Doors not the individual who have proved themselves greedy on more than one occasion.

Jampol makes money and serves the B®AND but he does little or nothing to further the cause of the BAND.

He is obsessed with selling and has no idea about promoting The History of the band in a positive way to bring in new people. The Internet is a Powerful Tool but The Doors have never used it to nurture and educate it's fanbase. They have thrived on turmoil and discord which has damaged them to a degree we have no real idea of. But damage has certainly been done as it can be seen in the loss of the Internet Doors Community.
How this has affected the bands selling potential is a variable that is hard if not impossible to calculate. But it has damaged it because I am just one of many people I know personally who will not pay to get Doors products.

Rebranding and reselling does indeed interest new customers/fans but the education of that fanbase via the History of the band tends to bring in fans who delve a bit deeper than the superficial.

Superficial fans buy the best of's and packages like this.
Will these superficial fans be there in 2021?
I been a fan since 1970 and been listening since 1968. If I am alive in 2021 I will still be a Doors fan.

It's not the repackaging that has made me like this but the History of the band. I am not still a fan because of the 80s Best of albums or The Doors movie I am a fan because this band has been part of my life for over 40 years. As many bands have.
The point I am making is that if you treat fans like customers then they will act like customers and customers tend to shop around and fall out of love with one shop and go somewhere else.
Treat them as fellow travellers along a road to discover things about a band like The Doors and you will see a group of people like the Paris crowd who have shared a journey and as such share a bond.
People who go to the ASDA do not share a bond. They just shop in the same supermarket.

Jampol and The Doors just go for the hard sell. 'We are dumping this and giving you that.'
Whereas if you engage the fan into believing he is part of something special then you will reap longevity rather than a quick buck.

The Doors are a special band. Not for everybody. Thats why superficial fans are superficial and will listen for a while then find something else to interest them.
But signing on for the long haul brings its own reward with this group as there is so much to learn about this foursome.
Not all of it wholesome true but they are one of the most multi layered groups ever and one of the most interesting.

But The Doors employ an idiot who just sees the cash and he is destroying or has already destroyed what was something special to The Doors a loyal fanbase that brought in fellow travellers everyday.


BTW nice idea but you are looking at it from a fan view rather than the way they look at it. Your way is best and gets my vote.

[wplj]

Aug 4, 2011 14:20:36 GMT TheWallsScreamedPoetry said:

I did not say I did not understand why Jampol and The Doors do this I simply question their method which I think dilutes the integrity of The Doors rather than serves any positive purpose.

I say integrity of The Doors not the individual who have proved themselves greedy on more than one occasion.

Jampol makes money and serves the B®AND but he does little or nothing to further the cause of the BAND.

He is obsessed with selling and has no idea about promoting The History of the band in a positive way to bring in new people. The Internet is a Powerful Tool but The Doors have never used it to nurture and educate it's fanbase. They have thrived on turmoil and discord which has damaged them to a degree we have no real idea of. But damage has certainly been done as it can be seen in the loss of the Internet Doors Community.
How this has affected the bands selling potential is a variable that is hard if not impossible to calculate. But it has damaged it because I am just one of many people I know personally who will not pay to get Doors products.

Rebranding and reselling does indeed interest new customers/fans but the education of that fanbase via the History of the band tends to bring in fans who delve a bit deeper than the superficial.

Superficial fans buy the best of's and packages like this.
Will these superficial fans be there in 2021?
I been a fan since 1970 and been listening since 1968. If I am alive in 2021 I will still be a Doors fan.

It's not the repackaging that has made me like this but the History of the band. I am not still a fan because of the 80s Best of albums or The Doors movie I am a fan because this band has been part of my life for over 40 years. As many bands have.
The point I am making is that if you treat fans like customers then they will act like customers and customers tend to shop around and fall out of love with one shop and go somewhere else.
Treat them as fellow travellers along a road to discover things about a band like The Doors and you will see a group of people like the Paris crowd who have shared a journey and as such share a bond.
People who go to the ASDA do not share a bond. They just shop in the same supermarket.

Jampol and The Doors just go for the hard sell. 'We are dumping this and giving you that.'
Whereas if you engage the fan into believing he is part of something special then you will reap longevity rather than a quick buck.

The Doors are a special band. Not for everybody. Thats why superficial fans are superficial and will listen for a while then find something else to interest them.
But signing on for the long haul brings its own reward with this group as there is so much to learn about this foursome.
Not all of it wholesome true but they are one of the most multi layered groups ever and one of the most interesting.

But The Doors employ an idiot who just sees the cash and he is destroying or has already destroyed what was something special to The Doors a loyal fanbase that brought in fellow travellers everyday.


BTW nice idea but you are looking at it from a fan view rather than the way they look at it. Your way is best and gets my vote.

Well, yeah, of course I look at it as a fan would, cuz I am one!

Seriously, though ... they could do what I mentioned in my earlier post and probably regain the respect of their fans and STILL make money in the process. It's got to be the only way they would get people to buy those albums again ... for the FINAL time as a physical product. Come 2021 it will all be in a cloud somwehere, anyway ...

It is a shame cuz they have such a rich history, etc, etc. If done right, that kind of Immersion (as Pink Floyd are calling it) re-issue would do each of those albums a ton of justice, giving the listener a real sense of the album, the times, the recording process, etc, etc.

Ray, Robby and John are allowed to have input, but are not allowed to write liner notes! They can be newly interviewed, but no writing! See ... off in my fantasy world again ... ha ha!

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