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Post by othercircles on Jun 1, 2005 20:22:53 GMT
When the music's over When the music's over, yeah When the music's over Turn out the lights Turn out the lights Turn out the lights, yeah
When the music's over When the music's over When the music's over Turn out the lights Turn out the lights Turn out the lights
For the music is your special friend Dance on fire as it intends Music is your only friend Until the end Until the end Until the end
Cancel my subscription to the Resurrection Send my credentials to the House of Detention I got some friends inside
The face in the mirror won't stop The girl in the window won't drop A feast of friends "Alive!" she cried Waitin' for me Outside!
Before I sink Into the big sleep I want to hear I want to hear The scream of the butterfly
Come back, baby Back into my arm We're gettin' tired of hangin' around Waitin' around with our heads to the ground
I hear a very gentle sound Very near yet very far Very soft, yeah, very clear Come today, come today
What have they done to the earth? What have they done to our fair sister? Ravaged and plundered and ripped her and bit her Stuck her with knives in the side of the dawn And tied her with fences and dragged her down
I hear a very gentle sound With your ear down to the ground We want the world and we want it... We want the world and we want it... Now Now? Now!
Persian night, babe See the light, babe Save us! Jesus! Save us!
So when the music's over When the music's over, yeah When the music's over Turn out the lights Turn out the lights Turn out the lights
Well the music is your special friend Dance on fire as it intends Music is your only friend Until the end Until the end Until the end!
According to Ray they recorded this without Jim who didnt turn up at the studio that day. Ray did a guide vocal as they played. Then Jim redid the vocals the following day.
Are there any boots of that song with Rays origional vocal? Or is Ray full of BS? I think that'd be pretty cool to hear.
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Post by ensenada on Jun 1, 2005 20:25:30 GMT
that would be pretty cool to hear. but going off recent reports on Ray, i wouldnt be surprised if he was full on BS, bless his little cotton socks 
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Post by othercircles on Jun 1, 2005 20:26:47 GMT
Seems like a pretty major thing to lie about though. Not like... a little comment John may or may not have made. I find it entirely believable that Jim would not show up lol
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jun 1, 2005 20:28:03 GMT
Nothing has ever turned up sadly as I think this kinda thing would be incredible to hear......I imagine that a few songs were worked up in the studio this way as Jim was not that reliable.....  It would be awesome if some of this survived but whether we would ever hear it if it did is another matter.....The Doors industry lives off 'Pretty Boy' Jim Morrison so other aspects of the bands history would not be a high priority if they did not include him..... 
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Post by ensenada on Jun 1, 2005 20:30:39 GMT
true, i would fully expect jim to have not bothered on occasions due to hangover etc 
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Post by othercircles on Jun 1, 2005 20:34:34 GMT
In rays book he talks about how he got drunk with Jim one night. He couldnt keep up with Jim and went home. The next day he woke up so sick and hungover and it was the afternoon. He went over to the cafe or bar or something to meet the boys and there was Jim gulping down more booze already. lol
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Post by jym on Jun 1, 2005 20:47:39 GMT
I've always just assumed they taped over Rays vocals or stripped that track off(?)
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jun 1, 2005 20:53:28 GMT
You never know with these people as they are such liars! 
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Post by othercircles on Mar 12, 2006 18:10:42 GMT
They used 8 track recording consoles on that album. I don't think its likely Rays vocal would have been erased unless they needed the space. But as it... the session tape could have been arranged something like.
1)keyboard 2)keyboard bass 3)drums 4)rays vocal 5)guitar 6)second guitar (during solo) 7)jims new vocal 8)jims second vocal (we want the world)
A smart engineer like bruce botnick would probably have even used one track for both robbies second guitar and jims second vocal as they are never heard at the same time. Weather Bruce did that or not it still would not have been nessesary to vacate the origional vocal.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Apr 27, 2006 8:59:35 GMT
I recall a discussion on this on the LL and someone saying that the Ray vocal might well exist....might have been Jampol I can't remember...... It would be pretty damn cool if this turned up as part of this box set...Ray Manzarek doing WTMO.......lets hope that maybe the rumour might turn out to be true......
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Apr 10, 2011 7:57:11 GMT
The intro to WTMO comes from the Herbie Hancock's Watermelon Man which I heard many times as a kid and was the first thing I thought of when I first heard WTMO. Mongo Santamaria version of Watermelon Man www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjJaH40rArU&feature=fvwJim also used cinema in the song as The Scream Of The Butterfly was a 1965 adult drama which would have been seen at cinema's along Sunset Strip. 
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Post by casandra on Apr 10, 2011 19:17:03 GMT
This is my favourite song, I think it's wonderful.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on May 3, 2011 13:10:21 GMT
Coppola used it in the film Apocalpse Now. It can be heard in the 5 hour workprint of the movie that exists. He used it at the end of the film during the village destruction scene. Dennis Jakob is thought to have suggested that the end sequence be moved to the beginning and The End replace WTMO. "The Doors are basically a blues oriented group with heavy dosages of rock 'n' roll, a moderate sprinkling of jazz, a minute quality of classical influence and some popular elements. But basically a white blues band".Jim Morrison - 'Rock A Word As Bold As Love'.Bam Balam magazine, July 1979
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on May 8, 2011 9:37:46 GMT
From 14 Reason's To Love John Densmore Modern Drummer 2010 Densmore's opening hi-hat foreplay and intro fills alone make this one worth the price of admission. But there's much more to the track. A sort of sequel to The End in the hair raising epic department including one of Krieger's finest solos. (The effects drenched multitrack masterpiece at 2.54. WTMO also highlights Densmore's special way with the single stroke roll. His tight brisk swelling singles can be heard all over The Doors studio and live canon of work but reach a pinnacle of effectiveness here. Especially around 2.32 and 2.45 snare drum and 8.01 floor tom. This song finds the dynamic drummer at both his loudest and his softest applying equal conviction to every stroke.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on May 10, 2011 14:32:13 GMT
Like The End on the first album, the recording of When the Music's Over was a real highlight of the sessions. Whether the Doors felt obligated, or were even trying to recapture the magic of The End is open to speculation, but there is no question their efforts produced another rock masterpiece of epic proportions.
The song deals with a number of subjects, including the wanton destruction of nature's greatest gift - the earth itself. Perhaps this was the shaman part of Jim attempting to spread the message of love for nature and reverence for the planet. As with many Doors songs, Jim wrote the lyrics, and both he and Robby contributed melodic ideas, and then the arrangement was worked out by the entire band. In a similar fashion to The End, the song was developed night after night in the Sunset Strip clubs, as a constantly changing free-form piece.
When the Music's Over embodies much of what the Doors were trying to do, and fittingly, it was the last song recorded for the album. On the afternoon they were to begin recording the track, Jim was nowhere to be found. After waiting around awhile, the band went ahead and laid the basic tracks, with Ray providing the vocal cues. The track was done in two takes, and when Jim came into the studio later that evening, he put his vocal down in two takes as well - without missing a single cue. Break On Through
WHEN THE MUSIC'S OVER
The double-tracked lead on When the Music's Over could very well be my favorite solo. It was definitely the closest I ever got in the Doors to a Coltrane type of thing. I think we recorded about four or five takes, and we picked the best two [for the final mix]. I do remember that I had a little help from some good cannabis. I also had some help from this little resistor that [Doors producer] Paul Rothschild kept in his briefcase at all times. I don't know how it worked, but when he modified my amp with it, the solos would really sing. I wish I had that thing today!
Of course, it was a little bit frustrating trying to duplicate that solo onstage without the resistor but at least I was always able to just freak out and play the weirdest thing I could. Up until a couple of years ago, I really wasn't a good enough musician to copy that solo. I'd try, but it was just like, 'What the hell did I do there?' It took me years of practicing to be able to play my own solo.
Robby Krieger: Guitar Player Magazine 1998
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Dec 2, 2011 10:49:52 GMT
For the solo Robby played two guitar solos over one another "That solo was a real challenge because the harmony is static. I had to play 56 bars over the same riff." Robby Krieger
Morrison incorporated Greek myth, ecology, religion and simply stuff that he would have seen himself. For instance "The Resurrection" is an evangelical Christian magazine that was delivered by mail. The title itself comes from one night at The Whisky when one of the owners said to The Doors "When the music's over, turn out the lights."
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Nov 21, 2012 12:13:48 GMT
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