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Post by thebadcowboy on Mar 12, 2006 20:29:38 GMT
ok
so i just watched a documentary about morrisons final days in paris
i missed the start of it so i havent a fuckin clue what it was called.... also half of it was in irish so i was sorta stumped on that part also......!!!!
anyway there was quite a bit of it in english and french also so i was not totally lost...... they spoke to bill siddons, agnes varda, alain ronay and quite a few people who were at the rock and roll circus the night morrison died....... they also spoke to zouzou the model chic who as far as i can remember was the owner of the apartment on rue beautrellis.... she was a serious babe.....!!!! : ) so the general consensus of opinion among these people was that morrison was at the r&r circus and od'd in the bathroom, was then carried out of the joint thru the alcazar and back to beautrellis where he was put in the bath in an attempt to revive him..... obviously yuh cant believe everything yuh see on tv, but this would come across as a significant argument that pams story of him dying in the bath tub are a pile of shite.....!!!!
there was also some interesting footage taken inside the apartment along with some pics of morrison that i personally have never seen before and quite a few shots of pams buddy count de breuteil (or however yuh fuckin spell it!!)
it seems like this docu was made quite recently by an irish production company but they may have used material from previous sources or programmes, i dont know because i dont watch tv usually and this is actually the first time i have ever come across anything about morrison or the doors on tv....!!!
i will contact the tv station tomorrow to see if i can find out anything else about it \nd if it is gonna be shown again in which case i will tape it and let the rest of you guys judge fro yourselves......
interesting show and it has to beg the question....."is stu gonna bum Gemma in paris in july and are they gonna be the next arrestees from the feast of madness........?"
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Post by stuart on Mar 12, 2006 20:54:54 GMT
Yo cowboy mate , Please let me know how you get on about the morrison programme as i would LOVE to see this, maybe they can give you a tape of it? think they could do that?, sounds like very interesting stuff, im biased as i think the r n r circus story is true but that's my opinion of course!.
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Post by ensenada on Mar 12, 2006 22:42:24 GMT
it sounds very similar...cant fuckin write (too many beers)...to le mysterie de morrison, or called something very similar. a program sara sent me...most of it, as you can imagine is in french, but that also has interviews with agnes varda whats her name and others like the dude morrison stayed with a few times....cant remember his name. oh and the fuka bird who was/is his missis. they also spoke about the possible od in r&r circus and the mothing of jim's body back to his apartment. if yah can i would like a copy bc..
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Post by stuart on Mar 12, 2006 23:36:19 GMT
Any of you guys saw a programme called"Strange Deaths"? The Section on Jim is very interesting about what went on july 3rd, the programme also has sections on Hendrix and warhol.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Mar 13, 2006 12:12:13 GMT
the one BC is on about is on Chris' site in the Sara Folder.....Not 100% sure which one it is but I was watching it before Xmas......  |
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Post by darkstar on Mar 13, 2006 12:36:18 GMT
Heres a listing of the English/French Documentaries that were released in the early 90's:
Stille Tage In Paris - Jim Morrison
1993 Documentary (French/German Production WDR Germany)
40 minutes
This documentary is in English. Where people are interviewed that speak French the dialog is overdubbed in English.
The film starts out showing scenes of Pere Lachaise circa mid 1980s because the old headstone and bust are on the grave. There is clips from Feast Of Friends (same used in Doors commerically released videos) intertwined with the Paris film shots.
The next scene is a French Apartment (have no idea if this Jim and Pams apartment in Paris) you see an empty bathtub and then a 747 taking off on a runway and then back to the Apartment where it shows an unmade bed, a pair of cowboy boots, record player, Jims published books, pen and paper and a paper with Jims poetry in his handwriting on a desk.
Agnes Varda is interviewed (translated to English) she talks about Jim wanting to write and be James Douglas Morrison not Jim Morrison. He wanted to start a new idenity for himself in Paris. He carried around an Super 8 MM camera and at this point you see some old film shots taken with an 8MM camera of Paris (do not know if these shots are from Jims camera or someones shots taken during that time period.) The film goes on showing Paris scenery and the narrator talks about Jim wanting to change, only a few close friends knew that he went to Paris to change his identity and then it cuts back to Agnes Varda. Agnes said she met Jim through Alain Ronay and she took Jim to her husband Johnthan Demys film set where Jim walked around the set observing everything. He wandered around looking at people. Later Jim and Agnes and her husband ate dinner and talked about films. Jim displayed a real interest in film making. She said Jim was an excellent storyteller.
The film then shows the Wild Child “studio” shot as seen in a few Doors commercially released videos. The narrator talks about the myth of Jim Morrison and then film goes back to show Pere Lachaise in 1981 and The Doors, Ray, John and Robby visiting Jims grave. (This segment is probably from the video “A Tribute To Jim Morrison.”)
Then film switches to show Madame Colinette a woman who visits Pere Lachaise everyday and was there when Jim was buried. She said it was a small, plain ceremony with only a few people in attendance.
In the next scene you see the legs and cowboy boots of a male actor walking down some stone steps to the Sceine River. The film switches back to interviewing Agnes where she reads a bit of Jims poetry and tells of his desire to change as in the Changeling (from LA Woman) the films switches back to showing the nightlife of Paris and the cafes Jim would frequent when he lived there. A stop is made a the Rock and Roll Circus (now called the Whisky A Go Go) where the narrator explains how Jim was attracted to the underground drug scene of Paris and frequented the R&R Cirrus on several occasions.
Giles Yepriem is now interviewed and he tells of Jim getting really drunk at the R&R Circus and how Giles carried him to a friends house to sleep off the drunk. The next day at Giles friends house (Herve Muller) Jim gets up and starts drinking again and once again he passes out til the next day when they go to breakfast. Giles said he took the photos of Jim and Pam in front of their apartment building that day (which was May 1971). Jim said that his relationship with Pam wasn’t going to good and he seemed depressed. He didn’t want to live the rock star life anymore. The drug and alcohol abuse had wore him out and he was now very weak.
The accepted story of Pam and Jim going to the movies and then coming home and Jim taking a bath is narrated with Paris nightlife clips and the French Apt.
Agnes recalls Pam calling her house the morning of July 3 and her and Alain Ronay go to Jim and Pams apartment. Agnes called the fire department and when they arrived they tried to revive Jim but it was too late. She said The Doors office was notified of Jims death and she kept the news from getting in the Press until after Jim was buried. Ronay and Varda got Jim into Pere Lachaise to be buried.
Last Days Of Jim Morrison Documentary
circa 1991/92
14 minutes long
100% English (French is over-dubbed in English)
Shows Los Angeles and the Whisky A Go Go intermixed with Doors commercially released video clips.
Howard Wolf is interviewed inside the Whisky (this persons title is US Tour Manager) where he talks about the Doors days in the Whisky.
Next interview is with Yvonne Fuka which is overdubbed in English and then Herve Muller which is also overdubbed. Herve tells about Jim going to R&R Circus, copping some heroin in the restrooms, snorting the heroin and being carried out of the club through the Alcaraz (next door night club) by a man and a woman and put in car. They take Jim back to his apartment and put him in the bathtub and he dies. (Herve said Jim was most likely alive when they took him from the R&R Circus)
The narrator tells the story of Jim going to see a Robert Mitchem movie and afterwards ending up in the R&R Circus.
Next interview is with Francois Jaffa (He is either a patron at the R&R Circus or an Employee of the club???) He talks about seeing Jim Morrison in R&R Circus on several occasions.
The film switches back to Herve Muller.
Le Mystere Morrison is a french documentary that was released in 1991. Copies of this film have been in circulation for about 12 years.
The documentary is is in two languages 80% English and 20% French. French subtitles cover the English speaking guests who are interviewed.
The film is 1 hour and 40 minutes long.
The documentary covers 1964/65 (UCLA time period) through Jim's time in Paris. There are interviews with fans visiting Pere Lachaise and coverage of Oliver Stone "Doors" movie including some shots of the making of the film. The film is inter-spliced with the clips from the common Doors videos that have been commerically released and some parts of the film "Feast Of Friends."
People interviewed on this documentary are: (in order of appearance)
Michelle Campbell (American photographer)
Robbie Freeman (hung out with Jim in UCLA days)
Didbt Diel (American Journalist/UCLA Classmate)
Eve Babowitz (Self-Admitted Groupie)
Ray Manzarek (who admits Jim didn't like to sing LMF)
Robbie Krieger
Mario (Owner of the Whisky A Go Go)
Marc Zarmati ("Dr.Rock" French Journalist)
Jac Holzman (President of Elektra Records)
Etienne Rada-Gil (French Photographer)
Richard Metlzer (Journalist for Creem Magazine)
Claude Gassion (French Photographer)
William Harvey (PR/AR person for Doors Concerts)
Agnes Varda (Filmmaker - Friend of Jim's while in Paris)
Rosalie Varda-Demy (Agnes Vardas daughter- knew Jim)
Sam Beren (French Journalist)
Paul Rothchild (Doors Producer)
Diane Gardner (Jim's Public Relations Person)
Oliver Stone
Billy Idol
Val Kilmer
Frank Whaley
Kyle MacLaughlin
Meg Ryan
Manuieal Gourary (French Journalist)
Giles Yepremain (Knew Jim in while in Paris)
Yvonne Fuko (Physiciatist)
Camerson Watson (DJ at the R&R Circus)
Col. Radisson (Fire Chief who went to Jims Apt July 3)
Raymond Martin (French Physican)
Following Raymond Martins' interview (which is in French) Robby Krieger is interviewed and says maybe thats how it happened, Jim had some sort of childhood disease like Ramatic Fever and he knew he didn't have long to live anyway so he did everything he could while he was alive.)
Then Ray Manzarek says...What do I know? I wasn't in Paris. I was in L.A. I've heard lots of stories. There is a grave in Pere Lachaise and Jim is supposed to be in there.
Towards the last 20 minutes of this documetary the lanuage is primarily in French. I don't speak french but it is understood that the interviews cover Jims' death. Agnes Varda talks about when she saw Jims' body and the blood running from one nostil of his nose.
It's unfortunate that I'm unable to translate French or I would have a better scenerio of what was being said.
The interviews with the American people talk about UCLA, some of the drug trips Jim did, Jims' actions towards the press and certain journalists, Jims behavior at concerts, his poetry and the interviewees personal experiences when they were in Jims company.
I highly recommend this video for Doors fans and anyone who wants a better perpective of Jims time in Paris 1971.
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Post by darkstar on Mar 13, 2006 12:39:27 GMT
Dead Famous UK TV Show Includes Episode About Jim Morrison:Episode Number 5 First Aired July 13, 2004 Director Maria Knowles Guest Stars: Henry Diltz (as Himself) Brett Meisner (as Himself) Michael J. Kouri (as Himself - Psychic Medium) Barry Taff (as Himself - Parapsychologist) Carla Baron (II) (as Herself - Psychic Investigator) Gail Porter review on Jim Morrison from the show - Jim Morrison Alta Cienega Motel (West Hollywood) "Jim stayed in the motel and we visited his bedroom with a psychic who worked for the LAPD or murder cases. She asked Jim to send us one water sign and one electrical sign. We were vey sceptical, saying "Yeah,of course he will, but while we were there, the TV kept switching itself on and off , and after two minutes later the toilet flooded, it could have just been a concidence but we were all really spooked. www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/ShowMainServlet/showid-19669/Dead_Famous
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Post by sparky on Mar 13, 2006 13:45:56 GMT
ok so i just watched a documentary about morrisons final days in paris i missed the start of it so i havent a fuckin clue what it was called.... also half of it was in irish so i was sorta stumped on that part also......!!!! anyway there was quite a bit of it in english and french also so i was not totally lost...... they spoke to bill siddons, agnes varda, alain ronay and quite a few people who were at the rock and roll circus the night morrison died....... they also spoke to zouzou the model chic who as far as i can remember was the owner of the apartment on rue beautrellis.... she was a serious babe.....!!!! : ) so the general consensus of opinion among these people was that morrison was at the r&r circus and od'd in the bathroom, was then carried out of the joint thru the alcazar and back to beautrellis where he was put in the bath in an attempt to revive him..... obviously yuh cant believe everything yuh see on tv, but this would come across as a significant argument that pams story of him dying in the bath tub are a pile of shite.....!!!! there was also some interesting footage taken inside the apartment along with some pics of morrison that i personally have never seen before and quite a few shots of pams buddy count de breuteil (or however yuh fuckin spell it!!) it seems like this docu was made quite recently by an irish production company but they may have used material from previous sources or programmes, i dont know because i dont watch tv usually and this is actually the first time i have ever come across anything about morrison or the doors on tv....!!! i will contact the tv station tomorrow to see if i can find out anything else about it \nd if it is gonna be shown again in which case i will tape it and let the rest of you guys judge fro yourselves...... interesting show and it has to beg the question..... "is stu gonna bum Gemma in paris in july and are they gonna be the next arrestees from the feast of madness........?"your sick...... i mean it!!!! no one is going anywhere near my bum or any other part of my body for that matter. im enlisting a few body guards to go to paris with me. they will be some hard hitting mofo's so i suggest u stay away. |
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Post by thebadcowboy on Mar 13, 2006 15:57:18 GMT
fuck her in the ass baby.... all night long......!!!! ok so i just watched a documentary about morrisons final days in paris i missed the start of it so i havent a fuckin clue what it was called.... also half of it was in irish so i was sorta stumped on that part also......!!!! anyway there was quite a bit of it in english and french also so i was not totally lost...... they spoke to bill siddons, agnes varda, alain ronay and quite a few people who were at the rock and roll circus the night morrison died....... they also spoke to zouzou the model chic who as far as i can remember was the owner of the apartment on rue beautrellis.... she was a serious babe.....!!!! : ) so the general consensus of opinion among these people was that morrison was at the r&r circus and od'd in the bathroom, was then carried out of the joint thru the alcazar and back to beautrellis where he was put in the bath in an attempt to revive him..... obviously yuh cant believe everything yuh see on tv, but this would come across as a significant argument that pams story of him dying in the bath tub are a pile of shite.....!!!! there was also some interesting footage taken inside the apartment along with some pics of morrison that i personally have never seen before and quite a few shots of pams buddy count de breuteil (or however yuh fuckin spell it!!) it seems like this docu was made quite recently by an irish production company but they may have used material from previous sources or programmes, i dont know because i dont watch tv usually and this is actually the first time i have ever come across anything about morrison or the doors on tv....!!! i will contact the tv station tomorrow to see if i can find out anything else about it \nd if it is gonna be shown again in which case i will tape it and let the rest of you guys judge fro yourselves...... interesting show and it has to beg the question..... "is stu gonna bum Gemma in paris in july and are they gonna be the next arrestees from the feast of madness........?"your sick...... i mean it!!!! no one is going anywhere near my bum or any other part of my body for that matter. im enlisting a few body guards to go to paris with me. they will be some hard hitting mofo's so i suggest u stay away. |
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Post by eressie on Mar 13, 2006 15:59:38 GMT
Jim stayed in the motel and we visited his bedroom with a psychic who worked for the LAPD or murder cases. She asked Jim to send us one water sign and one electrical sign. We were vey sceptical, saying "Yeah,of course he will, but while we were there, the TV kept switching itself on and off , and after two minutes later the toilet flooded, it could have just been a concidence but we were all really spooked. Very interesting. Are any other similar experiences known about Jim giving signs? I mean, more serious reports. |
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Post by darkstar on Mar 13, 2006 16:05:26 GMT
I have heard different stories over the years about Jims' so called appearances after his death at different places but I don't take them seriously. This dead famous tv show didn't prove to me that Jim actually made a visit during the times they tried to contact him. There is no proof on the camera so its I guess its up to each person to decide for themselves what they do or don't believe.
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Post by sparky on Mar 13, 2006 18:25:18 GMT
fuck her in the ass baby.... all night long......!!!! your sick...... i mean it!!!! no one is going anywhere near my bum or any other part of my body for that matter. im enlisting a few body guards to go to paris with me. they will be some hard hitting mofo's so i suggest u stay away. no fuck u in ass baby.........all week long!!! |
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Post by eressie on Mar 13, 2006 20:59:53 GMT
I have heard different stories over the years about Jims' so called appearances after his death at different places but I don't take them seriously. This dead famous tv show didn't prove to me that Jim actually made a visit during the times they tried to contact him. There is no proof on the camera so its I guess its up to each person to decide for themselves what they do or don't believe. Yes, most of them are probably not serious, but I guess some of them are and I am very interested in such things. If you come across anything else like that I am interested in reading it. |
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Post by darkstar on Mar 14, 2006 3:24:38 GMT
I have heard different stories over the years about Jims' so called appearances after his death at different places but I don't take them seriously. This dead famous tv show didn't prove to me that Jim actually made a visit during the times they tried to contact him. There is no proof on the camera so its I guess its up to each person to decide for themselves what they do or don't believe. Yes, most of them are probably not serious, but I guess some of them are and I am very interested in such things. If you come across anything else like that I am interested in reading it. Theres a lot of threads on my Morrison Highway board listed under Jim Morrison Myths and Legends. Your welcome to check them out. We don't see many people over there anymore but we do keep the board up with new articles. |
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Post by eressie on Mar 14, 2006 11:20:03 GMT
Theres a lot of threads on my Morrison Highway board listed under Jim Morrison Myths and Legends. Thanks, I will check that out. |
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Post by alisonwoo on Jul 3, 2006 19:59:16 GMT
If you want to know what really happened to Jim during his last days in Paris, read his own words at: musicmedium.blogspot.com |
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Post by jedi on Jul 15, 2006 16:06:00 GMT
If you want to know what really happened to Jim during his last days in Paris, read his own words at: musicmedium.blogspot.comHmmm.....  |
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Post by nick on Jul 15, 2006 16:07:43 GMT
Jim's still alive. I seen him around the Opera eating a watermelon face-on with both hands.
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Post by jedi on Jul 15, 2006 16:09:48 GMT
BC, if you manage to get this on tape, I'd love to get a copy if it's ok!!
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