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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Dec 4, 2005 0:17:03 GMT
Its 40 years this December that Robby Krieger brought this song to The Doors rehearsal and considering it was the first song he ever wrote it certainly brought The Doors to the attention of the world but did it epitomise The Doors sound.
Its brilliance as a Doors classic can never be diminished but is it over rated compared to the rest of The Doors catalogue......not that simple a question true but I only allow you guys a simple yes or no.....
For me NO!
It broke the band but there are dozens of songs that define The Doors as a band better than this one....
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Post by sandwood on Dec 4, 2005 0:22:04 GMT
LMF for me is still hot. The crack on the drum demands instant attention and I have never heard Jim sing better than he does here, particularily at the end when he is both pleading and demanding at the same time
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Dec 4, 2005 13:44:16 GMT
I am not saying its not a good song or a good tune....I love it...just that it does not define The Doors and too much attention is given to this song.......Jim himself began to treat it with contempt as it became a millstone round the bands neck which is odd considering it never made the Absolutely Live album.......now there is a point to raise on the Densmore site.....
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Post by ensenada on Dec 4, 2005 17:36:40 GMT
in a way, i think it does appitamise the doors sound....well i suppose not entirely. but you got their best stuff in there....great keyboard, moody singing (jims voice), lyrics, and the general sound, drums/guitar that basically does sum the doors up pretty well. and still love listening to the full song...the solos are superb!!
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Post by othercircles on Dec 6, 2005 2:17:58 GMT
I also voted no. To be blunt anyone who says otherwise either hasnt heard much doors material or has no kind of musical ear as the doors "sound" changed drastically every other album.
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Post by ensenada on Dec 6, 2005 17:13:30 GMT
I also voted no. To be blunt anyone who says otherwise either hasnt heard much doors material or has no kind of musical ear as the doors "sound" changed drastically every other album. eerrr well i have.... and as you said it..the doors sound changed every bloody album anyway....so how can there be other particular songs to devine the doors...if not a corker from the FIRST album!!?? |
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Post by othercircles on Dec 8, 2005 3:33:17 GMT
so how can there be other particular songs to devine the doors...if not a corker from the FIRST album!!??
My whole point is that nothing does. LMF represents a very early period of their career. The psycedellic sound and all that. After the 3rd album really that style was pretty much done.
Just because a song was a hit doesnt mean thats most what they were about.
If you happen to think thats their best.. or thats your favorite song. Then thats different.. but that wasnt the question.
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Post by strangenightvstone on Jul 2, 2006 15:50:16 GMT
I also voted no. To be blunt anyone who says otherwise either hasnt heard much doors material or has no kind of musical ear as the doors "sound" changed drastically every other album. eerrr well i have.... and as you said it..the doors sound changed every bloody album anyway....so how can there be other particular songs to devine the doors...if not a corker from the FIRST album!!?? We have to look at the basis of rock and roll music, that which is the blues. LMF is not a blues song, though LMF was based on Coltrane's bluesy version of My Favorite Things. Coltrane plays a soprano sax which is blue, though without lyrics it is not a song. The saxophone has vocal qualities. What I heard about Light My Fire was that the original tape was slowed down when transfering to a stereo 2 track for the release. This would lower the pitch of the vocals if it was true, what do you think Alex? Is it slowed down? Is Jim's voice lower on this track? We must consider the fact that Queen Of The Highway Alt. version was sped up the way old Robert Johnson recordings were. Record companies thought this was needed. This song does not epitomize The Doors because it is not a blues song, which is what The Doors will be remembered for. The Doors wanted their first record to sound like The Paul Butterfield Blues Band with Michael Bloomfield on guitar. Bloomfield went on to produce an album for Otis Rush, one of the greatest Chicago bluesmen. Also, over on the SG I am involved in an argument with someone who insists a woman named Carol Kaye played bass guitar on LMF. This is not true at all, Carol Kaye played on the 1965 demos recorded at Pacific Sound Studios with Ray's brothers. This false belief then leads to accusations that Jac Holzman and The Doors were involved in a conspiracy to deny Carol credit. The fact is that she never played on an Elektra recording, she was gone by the time Robby Krieger joined the band. The demo recordings she did play only supplied a bass melody line which came from Jim's voice, there is nothing in her playing that added to the compositions; therefore she deserves no credit for The Doors sound. |
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Post by kommanderkool on Jul 19, 2006 13:42:42 GMT
In my opiniod, Light My Fire does not nail the Doors sound. It was probably their most famous and most popular song, but it was like rock/pop which was not the Doors style.
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Post by ensenada on Jul 19, 2006 16:21:21 GMT
In my opiniod, Light My Fire does not nail the Doors sound. It was probably their most famous and most popular song, but it was like rock/pop which was not the Doors style. i agree with you there. |
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Post by hilts on Jul 19, 2006 16:35:19 GMT
I also think it does not nail their sound although I do love the song. The two solos are amazing. Popularly speaking, most non-hardcore fans would identify LMF with The Doors.
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Post by cobriaclord on Jul 19, 2006 17:26:23 GMT
I must give an adamant NO for my answer.
Why?
It doesn't highlight Morrison's ingenious vocals.
To have "The Doors sound"
it should have
Morrisons great lyrics
Ray's organ
Robby's slide guitar.
I'd pick Soft Parade
Peace
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jul 19, 2006 18:11:48 GMT
I also think it does not nail their sound although I do love the song. The two solos are amazing. Popularly speaking, most non-hardcore fans would identify LMF with The Doors. Most rock music fans would nowadays identify LMF with The Doors mate........it's become sort of The Doors theme song and next year it will get flogged to death for the 40th birthday of its release. Of course pretty much all Doors fans love the song (I know I do) but it is not the song that captures the spirit of The Doors...... |
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Post by ensenada on Jul 19, 2006 18:45:33 GMT
i love the song too. alex, what is the song that nails the doors sound for you?
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Jul 19, 2006 19:13:18 GMT
A very hard question which was why I posed this in the first place.
Doors fans all have their different takes on this which is why it's so hard a question to answer......
for me maybe I Can't See Your Face In My Mind or Horse Latitudes or End Of The Night or Summers Almost Gone or Who Scared You.........but of course everyone else would argue something else..........the answer is probably that there is no correct answer really which is what I like about The Doors.....
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