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Post by tzinana on Jul 27, 2005 3:54:46 GMT
JIM MORRISON; One, Two, Many Dionysiuses By GREGORY RABASSA (letter to the editor) The New York Times April 28, 1991 Jon Pareles states that Jim Morrison knew who Dionysius was ["Jim Morrison, Resurrected for Sensitive Souls," March 24]. I have my doubts. Would it be Dionysius the Elder, Tyrant of Syracuse? Or was it his son Dionysius II, the lout whose brother-in-law Dion sought to turn into a decent ruler, perhaps even the philosopher-king, through the good offices of Plato? It could also be Dionysius of Halicarnassus or perhaps the Christian monk Dionysius Exiguus, who gave us B.C. and A.D. Mr. Pareles doubtless meant Dionysus, son of Zeus and Semele (a k a Bacchus), the god to whom the adjective Dionysian also applies. The ruler Dionysius might have tempted self-destruction through bad political decisions, but the god Dionysus, being immortal, could not have brought it off, even though he certainly was able to bring mere earthlings along, as any bacchanal will attest. This whole matter may well be moot, however, as our leaders tend to be Dionysian after Dionysius and our mediocre popular arts are wild affairs in the Dionysian way of Dionysus, while Bird weeps and Apollo sulks in the realization that his mood has been mispronounced.
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Post by ensenada on Aug 3, 2005 16:56:42 GMT
who can actually tell me who dionysis was and when and where he was a ruler....i presumed he was a pagan god, but was he also a leader of people?
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Post by thebadcowboy on Aug 3, 2005 17:29:00 GMT
dionysus was the greek god of wine and wild abandon...........!!!!!!!!! who can actually tell me who dionysis was and when and where he was a ruler....i presumed he was a pagan god, but was he also a leader of people?
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Post by jym on Aug 3, 2005 18:23:39 GMT
Dionysius was a god, the other dionysius' were named after him, just like after WWII all those kids named Adolph!
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Post by weiland on Aug 3, 2005 20:28:42 GMT
Read "Baccants" by Euripides...
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Post by tzinana on Aug 3, 2005 21:15:27 GMT
Hi Ensenada, About Dionysus, the Greek god, check this link: www.pantheon.org/articles/d/dionysus.htmlJim read a lot about classic mythology and ancient religions, includig the "Golden Bough" by James Frazer, there is some info about that god in the book. He also read some of the works of Joseph Campbell ("light" mythology), Eliade, Lommel, and many other books written by ethnologists and anthropologists. Richard Goldstein, who met Morrison and interviewd him (including the PBS show "Critique"), referred a lot to the Dionysian and shaman sides of Morrison. Tzinana
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Post by ensenada on Aug 9, 2005 16:30:01 GMT
cheers dudes....did jim ever actually reffer to himself as a shaman. or was it other people who likened him to one? i know on the PBS interview he talks about shamanism briefly and his roles in society..
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Post by tzinana on Aug 11, 2005 5:09:39 GMT
cheers dudes....did jim ever actually reffer to himself as a shaman. or was it other people who likened him to one? i know on the PBS interview he talks about shamanism briefly and his roles in society.. You decide: ROAD DAYS (In The Lost Writings of Jim Morrison: Wilderness, volume 1) fear of Plane death And night was what Night should be A girl, a bottle, & blessed sleep I have ploughed My seed thru the heart of the nation. Injected a germ in the psychic blood vein. Now I embrace the poetry of business & become for a time a "Prince of Industry" A natural leader, a poet, [glow=red,2,300]a Shaman[/glow] w/ the soul of a clown. What am I doing in the Bull Ring Arena Every public figure running for Leader Spectators at the Tomb riot watchers Fear of Eyes Assassination Being drunk is a good disguise. I drink so I can talk to assholes. This includes me. The horror of business The Problem of Money guilt do I deserve it? The Meeting Rid of Managers & agents After 4 yrs. I'm left w/ a mind like a fuzzy hammer regret for wasted nights & wasted years I pissed it all away American Music End w/ fond goodbye & plans for future Not an actor Writerfilmmaker Which of my cellves will be remember'd Goodbye America I loved you Money from home good luck stay out of trouble And remember, from the Soft Parade album, "Shaman Blues", just the title of the song has the word shaman, interesting, don't you think?
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Post by ensenada on Aug 11, 2005 12:38:22 GMT
ah ha! good point, superb poem aswell..he lets his heart on on this one. yes he probably did percieve himself as a sort of shaman, spreading a message to people. ;D
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Post by tzinana on Aug 12, 2005 4:36:30 GMT
ah ha! good point, superb poem aswell..he lets his heart on on this one. yes he probably did percieve himself as a sort of shaman, spreading a message to people. ;D I agree a 100% with you!
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