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Post by jym on Mar 10, 2005 14:57:04 GMT
No, I think Jim needs to remain an outlaw. What will young people have to look up to? If not a man allegedly exposing his penis, really freedom O' speech, but I think Jim will do much better as an outlaw than a respected member of society, as it were.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Mar 10, 2005 18:34:36 GMT
I found the link to the college dork thing...   Jim Morrison: College Dork [1964] In 1964, a young Jim Morrison acted in a promotional film produced by Florida State. www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2665896 Most Popular Just Weird 1. Jim Morrison: College Dork 2. Breastfeeding The Cat 3. Amtrak Crash 4. Get Carl Lewis' Money! 5. Dschinghis Khan: Moskau 6. Underground Nuke Test 7. Bubb Rubb 8. Little Mr. Universe 9. Tsunami: Racha Island, Phuket 10. Knorsong |
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Mar 10, 2005 18:41:10 GMT
Movie clip offers early look at rock legend Jim Morrison Florida State files yield a treat for The Doors fans  This undated image shows a young Jim Morrison years before his more recognized role as lead singer for The Doors. It is believed to be the earliest film of Morrison, when he attended Florida State University. MIAMI - Florida historians have discovered a 40-year-old film clip of a clean-cut Jim Morrison. The 1964 black-and-white film, shot at Florida State University, shows a nerdy-looking Morrison, who died in 1971 at 27, acting the part of a young man whose university application has been rejected. The 16-minute video has the Florida native among wholesome scenes of college life. Jody Norman, archives supervisor at the State Library and Archives of Florida, said the film was turned over by FSU and contained no credit for Morrison, who would have been around 20 when it was shot. He was spotted by a sharp-eyed archivist who was reviewing the films. "We know he was at FSU for a period of time and he did some acting when he was there," Norman said. Houston Chronicle March 10, 2005 |
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Mar 10, 2005 18:54:07 GMT
Rare footage of Doors frontman found
March 10 2005
A 40-year-old film clip of Doors frontman Jim Morrison has been discovered in Florida.
The 1964 footage shows a bookish Morrison in the surroundings of Florida State University, a far cry from his rock n' roll days of women, booze and drugs.
Morrison, who died in Paris in 1971 at the age of 27, attended FSU for a short time.
He is seen in the 16-minute video playing the part of a student who is rejected from his chosen college.
Morrison is heard asking an administrator: "But what happened? How come my parents and the state and university didn't look ahead?"
The Doors were one of the most influential rock bands of the 1960s and had a string of hits including Light My Fire and Riders on the Storm.
Morrison was found dead in the bath of his Paris apartment after taking an apparently lethal mix of alcohol and drugs.
A French coroner recorded a verdict of death by natural causes.
However, he was buried quickly, sparking rumours of a cover-up amongst his fans.
The 1964 footage shows a bookish Morrison in the surroundings of Florida State University, a far cry from his rock n' roll days of women, booze and drugs
UK Independent TeleVision.com
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Mar 10, 2005 18:56:48 GMT
Footage reveals Jim Morrison the nerd
Florida historians have discovered a 40-year-old film clip of a clean-cut Jim Morrison that will give fans a different view of the Doors singer before his wilder days as a drug-using rock legend who drank hard and died young.
The 1964 black-and-white public relations film, shot at Florida State University (FSU) shows a nerdy-looking Morrison, a rock bad boy who died in 1971 at 27 years old, acting the part of a young man whose university application has been rejected.
The 16-minute video has Morrison among wholesome scenes of college life, parades and football, a sharp contrast to his image as a long-haired, leather-clad rebel poet accused of exposing himself and simulating a sex act at a Miami concert in 1969.
"It's incredible. He's so clean-cut and soft-spoken," said Jody Norman, archives supervisor at the State Library and Archives of Florida, and a Doors fan.
The website ifilm.com, which features video of all kinds, posted the clip under the heading "Jim Morrison: College Dork."
In the film, the Florida native plays a dejected would-be university student who reads a rejection letter from a school and then earnestly questions a school administrator as to why he can't go to college.
"But what happened? How come my parents and the state and university didn't look ahead?" he said.
The Doors were one of the most influential rock bands of the 1960s whose hits included Light My Fire and Riders on the Storm. They broke up a few years after Morrison died.
He was found dead in the bath of his Paris apartment on July 3, 1971, apparently of a lethal mix of alcohol and drugs. The French coroner's verdict of death by natural causes and his hurried burial sparked cover-up theories for years.
Norman said the film was among many turned over by FSU to the state archives and contained no identification or credit for Morrison, who would have been around 20 years old when it was shot. He was spotted by a sharp-eyed archivist who was reviewing the films.
"We know he was at FSU for a period of time and he did some acting when he was there," Norman said.
"It preserves some historical backdrop and background for some people who have made the state of Florida ... what we are today."
The film was incorporated into Florida's archives and the part featuring Morrison, runs 1 minute and 17 seconds
New Zealand Herald March 10th 2005
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Mar 11, 2005 10:33:51 GMT
VH1 are even showing this clip......pretty amazing for a guy who has not made a record for 34 years.....  Film Depicts Jim Morrison While a Student TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - Thirty-four years after his death, the state of Florida has found and restored what it believes to be the earliest film of Jim Morrison, shot in the early 1960s when he was a student at Florida State University. In the FSU promotional film, Morrison plays a clean-cut prospective student who is denied enrollment at the school. "We would like to accept you," Morrison's character is told. "Indeed, we'd like to offer more courses, more sections, but we just don't have the space — that together with the lack of professors." "But what happened?" he asks. "How come my parents, and the state and the university didn't look ahead?" Morrison, who became lead singer of The Doors, attended FSU before enrolling in UCLA's film school. He died in Paris in 1971 at age 27. The black-and-white clip was discovered last year among films that WFSU, a PBS station operated by the university, donated to the state in 1989. It was recently posted on the state's film archive Web site after being digitally converted. It will air Friday on VH1. By BRENDAN FARRINGTON, Associated Press Writer March 10th 2005 Rare footage of Doors frontman found
A 40-year-old film clip of Doors frontman Jim Morrison has been discovered in Florida.
The 1964 footage shows a bookish Morrison in the surroundings of Florida State University, a far cry from his rock n' roll days of women, booze and drugs.
Morrison, who died in Paris in 1971 at the age of 27, attended FSU for a short time.
He is seen in the 16-minute video playing the part of a student who is rejected from his chosen college.
Morrison is heard asking an administrator: "But what happened? How come my parents and the state and university didn't look ahead?"
The Doors were one of the most influential rock bands of the 1960s and had a string of hits including Light My Fire and Riders on the Storm.
Morrison was found dead in the bath of his Paris apartment after taking an apparently lethal mix of alcohol and drugs.
A French coroner recorded a verdict of death by natural causes.
However, he was buried quickly, sparking rumours of a cover-up amongst his fans.
NTL World.com Entertainment News 2005-03-10 Also made BBC Ceefax service.... |
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Post by jym on Mar 12, 2005 10:09:06 GMT
Yeah, this news finally made AOL's news section with that Brendan Farrington article. On VH1 Friday was that last night or next week???  |
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Mar 12, 2005 10:14:12 GMT
Yeah, this news finally made AOL's news section with that Brendan Farrington article. On VH1 Friday was that last night or next week??? I presume last night but I'm sure it will make a repeat performance..... |
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Post by jym on Mar 12, 2005 10:20:17 GMT
I just listened to some AP report AOL had on this & it said FSU called The Doors management & they authenticated the film, Now, my question is how the hell are they going to do that? Surely, Jim didn't say hey there's this film at FSU so if it ever comes out it's me, I mean all they could do is watch the film & listen & say"yeah, that's Jim." Some authentication process!
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Mar 12, 2005 10:56:16 GMT
I just listened to some AP report AOL had on this & it said FSU called The Doors management & they authenticated the film, Now, my question is how the hell are they going to do that? Surely, Jim didn't say hey there's this film at FSU so if it ever comes out it's me, I mean all they could do is watch the film & listen & say"yeah, that's Jim." Some authentication process! LMFAO I bet Ray charged them $10...... ;D I would have done it for $5..... |
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Post by darkstar on Mar 12, 2005 14:05:51 GMT
I can image that Ray Manzarek is dreaming up a sceem at this time, probably as I write this post, how best to exploit the FSU film under his direction.
Look for a feature film using old stock footage with the FSU clip incorporated therein. Has the potential of another Best Of..... video/dvd to hit shelves prior to July 3 2005.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Mar 12, 2005 14:39:03 GMT
I can image that Ray Manzarek is dreaming up a sceem at this time, probably as I write this post, how best to exploit the FSU film under his direction. Look for a feature film using old stock footage with the FSU clip incorporated therein. Has the potential of another Best Of..... video/dvd to hit shelves prior to July 3 2005. Daft as it sounds if these idiots at Doors PLC had an ounce of sense they could put out a DVD with this clip, Jose Gonzalez's 1964 student film 'The Wino and the Blind Man' which features Ray as the blind man, some of the footage from the various home movies we know exist and maybe a Doors rarity or two with a decent commentary all as extras to a Doors BMR concert as a centerpiece to the disc. It would be a way to get a BMR gig to a wider audience and give something back to Doors fans for once.... Will it happen....nah!....I imagine they have a couple of Best Of's they wanna put out first..... |
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Post by jym on Mar 12, 2005 14:57:36 GMT
Maybe R$ay will get a sense of humor about the "new" releases name the CD or DVD "You've Seen This All Before" another anthology with the new clip all for $50.00
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Post by wtd on Mar 12, 2005 15:14:51 GMT
What I like about the clip is it's cool to see but also it's free to anyone who want's to download it. It's so nice to see something not lock away in somebody's vault thats free to the public. That's what "The Door's" should do to preserve their legacy. They have so much material(music, video & photos) they could put on a web site which would preserve the history of "The Doors". It would be a internet museum of Door's history. It' too bad Ray & Robbie are so greedy and wouldn't do it. I could see John going for it though. Instead we get lame official web page with not much interesting on it to see. Nothing for the fans anyway.
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Post by TheWallsScreamedPoetry on Mar 12, 2005 15:34:32 GMT
Thats what I thought was gonna happen when they trumpeted the seismic changes to the website on the LL......... all we got was an anti GW Bush webpage with a link to some Doors T shirts.... at the time they were asking what WE the fans thought so I told them exactly what I thought about the official site and how it was utterly rubbish and askec which idjit thought this crap up.....I never did get a reply and shortly after the feedback email addy dissapeared mysteriously...... So much could have been done...Hell even Ray has some cracking bits and pieces on his site....but as usual mediocrity is the Doors PLC watchword..... As you say Chris its lucky that bunch did not get thier grubby little hands on this clip or we would have to pay a $ a shot to download it....  |
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Post by jym on Mar 12, 2005 16:10:21 GMT
You know I have no problem with paying for things, I have a problem with endless anthologies with one new thing on it, I have a problem with those damn samplers (why even waste marketing $$$ on that, just put out the concert!), I have a problem when they say they're going to release the whole critique program & what's missing? The panel discussion.
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Post by nick on Mar 13, 2005 5:45:29 GMT
I feel it’s a case of Pure-Marketing versus Charitable-Marketing. You can’t really blame them on one hand till it comes to the point of… one too many false promises… and cases like asking for feedback that’s just going to be taken for granted anyhow. Apparently they’re not doing too bad in it either way as the legacy of the band has seemed to endure well enough, and in a boots-on-the-other-foot circumstance, who’s to say how one would handle things. Of course that’s just one side (and I am relatively natural myself)- At any rate, pure marketing of course being… simply pumping the market for what it’s worth… and not offering any more than that till needed. Sometimes, from what I’ve heard, maybe that’s a wise decision with- say- an author. Unless somehow simultaneously they’re gonna review three books and there’s going to be an interest level there… which aint gonna happen. It’d be overkill. This not being the case here… a more charitable approach therefore would be nice 'n' fitting (we're not all gonna be around forever anyhow & it might bring a certain someone out there somewhere great joy to watch a film clip or hear a certain song that won't be around a year- ten years- from now when they finally release it)- offering up a bit more than they’d have to- a lot of loyalty’s going to be ensnared and respect gained- which all and all seems a worthy trade off tho it doesn’t seem The Doors, or most bands, are above the former more economic approach. And maybe many people don’t expect it to be that way, being THE DOORS- so they hold them up to a higher standard? Even if that’s not the case, I think there’s a lot of people out there with a lot of respect for the band and it’s sad, in that regard, that so much has seemed lost in these last years? Then again, when it comes right down to it, as extraordinarily talented and spiritual also, as Ray may be- his being more or less the one- it seems- in control now, he’s a rather pretentious, condescending, business minded individual too. |
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