Jim gets sued by The Doors: when he is dead

[darkstar3]

These are the documents associated with the Ester Johnson (Guardian) Lawsuit that was filed in 1969 that stems from her daughter June's attendance at the Kaiser Dome show, July 4 1967.

Kaiser Dome
newdoorstalk.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=calendarview&thread=354

June Johnson -vs- The Doors No. 118686
newdoorstalk.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=history&action=display&thread=1476

Note: The Manzarek claim document is dated April 1 1971 and Densmore and Krieger are April 1 1970 in the date of item column.








I'm reading these documents as each partner is asking for 25% to be paid from Jim's Estate to cover future expenses that may or may not be paid to settle the Johnson lawsuit. The amounts are the far right of each document. I could be incorrect and the amount being asked for is $75,000 ($25,000 X 3). What does everyone else see?

In the previously posted documents you will notice a line through three claims and I have understood this to mean that no monies were to be claimed from the estate on a personal basis by each band member.

The Doors Corp. documents I understand to read that there is an attachment for the Jim's Estate to pay 25% which equals $35,000+ but the amount on the claim signed by Ray Manzarek as Vice President, is left blank. I never understood why this document was blank when the attachment and the other claim(s) for the Johnson lawsuit were part of the probate. It's another mystery.

In reference to the Rolling Stone article regarding Pamela's passing Ray does mention he knows nothing about any lawsuit that has been filed. Attorney, Somers said the documents speak for themselves...well indeed the documents speak for themselves as Ray certainly did know there was a lawsuit as he signed on behalf of the partnership as Vice President the claim that was placed against the estate for money owed.

Another mystery is the document listing Pamela's estate where it asks for an accounting of the money still owed the partnership. Begs the question of what else could have been added to the amounts owed other than what was listed in previously filed documents?

Another mystery.

[darkstar3]

Mar 9, 2011 0:21:33 GMT adam said:

dont get me wrong i like john, but easier not to be in it for the money when you've got the money already

but that's what separates him, he knows when to stop & how to give a little back

In my opinion, after I read John's book, "Rider On The Storm" I came to the realization that John had come to terms with his relationship with Jim Morrison. Although, John could not go back and change the past, I think he learned a lot after writing out his history with the band and in particular Jim. I think he came away with a better and clearer understanding in his partnership with the Doors prior to Jim's passing.

When I wrote my first article in regards to the Densmore trial back in 2003 for the DCM I didn't have any supporting documentation at the time. I so believed in John and his ability to win the lawsuit that I defended him based on the information I found in newspaper articles of the time.

The majority of fans were getting their information from the LL of which some people claimed to have "inside" information which placed John as a loser of the lawsuit. I didn't believe it. So I set out to prove them wrong. I went to the Los Angeles Superior Court and started purchasing documents and I got lucky and came across the mention of a March 11 1971 Agreement that was still in effect at the time of the lawsuit. That was the document that was a deciding factor in who would prevail in court.

I remember the day I got the document that listed the March 11 1971 Agreement and I contacted Alex and I said, I think I have something that hasn't been seen in the public. I knew for sure that I had never read any book that contained information in regards to this amendment and I recall Alex answering me back with, "Holy Shit!"

Considering all of the negative energy that has swirled around between Doors members for the past 25 years a lawsuit of some kind was bound to happen. I believed in John Densmore then and I believe in him now. Yes, he has made a poor choice with the shoe decision and some other things, but I have a lot of respect for the man who has stood up and fought against his partners in keeping the Doors name from being a complete sell-out. I understand that John cannot sit in the same room with the other two surviving Doors.

I believe, after he wrote his book he realized whole heartedly how right Jim was on that fateful day in October of 1968 after the Buick contract was signed.

[TheWallsScreamedPoetry]

I can find common ground with Sara's assessment of John.
I agree with her that JD did indeed realise what he had done in the past was wrong and has indeed made efforts to make amends.
He said that he gave the money he made from the selling of ROTS to Pirelli to make the UK tyre advert which was screened here as I remember seeing it several times and can still remember the finish of the advert which showed a car stationary and the tyre with water running down the side and the fade out of ROTS.

But JD has also made some poor decisions nontheless which in my eyes counts against him.
The box set should have seen all 3 surviving Doors arrested and thrown in jail for a week as that is among the most criminal pieces of chicanery that they have ever perpetrated on Doors fans. Disc 4 which John participated in should have ensured they got bread and water for their week in the slammer.

The shoe obviously was a huge mistake and Densmore recognised that I do believe with his comments on his forum.

The December 8th 2008 piss plaque was something he, to his credit, had nothing to do with neither did he have anything to do with the disgraceful scenes we saw afterwards on you tube.
But he still played his part on the selling spree that all three made of thier mates would be 65th birthday which was collectively shameful.

He is a minor player in the mooching stakes it's true but he still dabbles.
His part in the Godawful film When You're Strange is not known but he did his bit to sell it to Doors fans.
I was removed from the Densmore forum as a result of daring to ask was he drunk when he first saw that film as he could not see the hatchet job that was being presented by that fool DiCillo.

I do like the man more than I dislike the man and he is the only Door I ever would have a conversation with. He could also buy me a drink which Ray and Robby could not do so which in my own regard for him is a big plus.

He gets confused sometimes but is I believe at heart a decent bloke who has to deal with a bunch of unscruplulous types.

Though why he has never publically sacked Jeff Jampol astounds me. Maybe Jeff is good at making money but the man is a bloody liar and another who would have difficulty buying me a drink
But I would probably take it if he bought one for everyone else in the pub

#Also even though I openly acknowledge that I enjoyed ray's book better than John's I also think Ray's was a tissue of lies and John's an honest assessment of his time as a Door and an attempt to make amends to Jim Morrison.
Ray's was more entertaining but John's had more heart and much more honesty.

[TheWallsScreamedPoetry]

Mar 9, 2011 0:42:55 GMT darkstar3 said:

I never understood why this document was blank when the attachment and the other claim(s) for the Johnson lawsuit were part of the probate. It's another mystery.

I was thinking of this last night and perhaps they were meant as copies for each claimant to be used for filing purposes with the case number and other relevant information but with the monetary sums left blank.
It could easily be done by placing something under the last copy to prevent the top half showing through but allowing the signatures to be seen.

Mar 9, 2011 0:42:55 GMT darkstar3 said:

Another mystery is the document listing Pamela's estate where it asks for an accounting of the money still owed the partnership. Begs the question of what else could have been added to the amounts owed other than what was listed in previously filed documents?

This is also interesting especially anything added from March 1971.
If as Bill Siddons claims Jim called a meeting and left the band before he left for Paris then perhaps a smart lawyer could argue that any costs incurred by The Doors were nothing to do with Jim.
It has always puzzled me, since I discovered this, why the band still maintained that Jim had gone away for a holiday and was coming back.
There is so much we do not know about these things.
Many would argue that it's nothing to do with us but I would argue back that these things reflect on the relationship between The Doors which has been used for over 30 years as the cornerstone to sell product to the fans.
Anything that disputes this and indicates an alternative view of the character of The Doors, including Jim, is fair game.
We have seen Jim's character examined in minutae, especially by his band mates, so it's fair to subject THEM to the same scrutiny and question every aspect of The Doors.

[TheWallsScreamedPoetry]

This is something I picked up on regarding the stories that The Doors gave Pam money to sort out Jim's grave and she spent it on smack.
Where these tales come from is unknown but they must have originated from someone in The Doors/Pam circle.
Whatever the truth it shows that The Doors were not taking any responsibility for the upkeep of their freinds grave and had no interest whatsoever in it.

Proof of that is as follows.
If it's true it reflects very badly on the character of The Doors for not making any follow up to giving Pam money and ensuring the grave was tended.
If true then they shirk any responsibility by flashing a bit of cash to ease their conciences and that would be en end to the matter.

If on the other hand it was not true then it reflects very badly on the character of The Doors for not making any effort to a ) discover what state the grave was in b ) take steps to afford their supposed good friend and colleague a bit of dignity in death.

It seems either way they washed thier hands of Jim Morrison as soon as they found out he was dead.

This taken from John's book.
Paris 1975
I sense the gravesite was getting near.
Over here the French journalist Herve said wearily.
We shuffled along the side of the lane, then began to climb over several tumbledown stones to a small rectangle of cement in the ground.
I stared at it incredulously.
This is it? I cried to myself.
This is the end of the Electric Shamen, the Acid King,Oedipus Rex himself.
Shit. Merde.
I looked over at Danny Sugerman and my eyes welled up with tears.
My stomach knotted and my legs began to itch with the old maddening rash.
I wanted to run away'
Robby straggled alongside quiet as ever keeping a lid on his feelings as usual.
Our guitarist was introverted but he was my best friend.
I shoved my hands into my pockets and sighed with deep despair. This is a beautiful place to be buried Jim but your plot seems so small and cold and dirty and.....unworthy

All very dramatic and perhaps it would not be too unfair to surmise that John's rash was brought on by guilt rather than any sense of loss.
Perhaps that is to unfair. But it has to be said that this was 1975.
And John Densmore and Robby Krieger who are mentioned in this section of John's book once, three years earlier, stood less than 2 miles away from the very place they stood now and failed to make a visit to stand next to their friends grave.

The question has to be asked why?

The money they felt they were owed had not been forthcoming, their career was failing as interest in their trio was waning even from the low base level it began with.

Giving money to Pamela and not taking any interest in the grave afterwards tells a tale of the character of these people.
John's contrition in his book cannot gloss over the fact that he did not take a lead and see something was done prior to May 1st 1972 when he was 2000 metres away from Jim's final resting place.
It would have been easy to get someone to photograph the grave and send them a print. They could have seen how bad things were and made a public point of doing something about it when they toured Europe in 1972.
They still used Jim to sell that tour as they mention him in interviews from that time.
But when it came to the crunch both John and Robby , after travelling 5000 miles, did not travel a further 2000 metres to pay their respects to Jim.
We do not know what Ray did as he has never said but it's fair to assume he did not go either because he would have used that as a pin to prick John with.

So the three of them were fine asking the Morrison estate for money but somewhat unforthcoming with any interest in the dead singers grave.

You must make up your own mind up as to the character of the Doors Trio based on what scant evidence we have.
I judge them very harshly indeed for this.

This is something I put on John's board after visiting Paris for Jim's 65th. The photos are from that day.
I contrasted it with what I saw and heard from LA the same day and posted it for the attention of JD but obviously I never got any response from him.
It did however spark a very lively debate there.

When The Music's Over


I followed it up with a post from the following July on the same thread.
I can no longer access the talk to John section as I am not a member but I kept the main posts I made and have reproduced them in the Jim section here for anyone who is interested.

[gizmo]

i think the remaining doors allready started to think about the money as soon as they had a feeling that jim was going to paris and that there would be a chance that jim could quit.
if jim would stop the band than the band had to pay for the maimi trial and maybe even some more shit would start to float over the water. but if they could start a "new"doors company it would be easier to shove the whole bill of the trial on to jim's lap coz he wasn't part of the "new"doors and so would miss all the income from the furure releases of best off albums etc.
i think friends will start making some strange moves when there is a shiltoad of money involved. i know plenty of stories about families bieng ripped apart when one of their parents die and they have to divide the total estate of the dead person. so when families can be torn appart by a funeral, why should your friends leave your girlfriend unharmed?

[TheWallsScreamedPoetry]

Mar 9, 2011 16:03:31 GMT gizmo said:

Friends

Out of all of this mate I think that's the word I dispute most when it comes to The Doors.
They were all friends when they started but something or some series of things drove a wedge between that and by 1971 they were not friends.
I cannot think of ONE single scenario where a 'friend' would travel 5000 miles and be within 2 KM of a another friend who had died less than a year before's grave and not even pay it a visit.

Friends don't do shit like that even if they were pissed at the person when they died.
Those three did not know whether they would ever be in that city again.

[darkstar3]

Before I post this transcript I must say that there are some people in the "current" Doors camp who claim Patricia Butler's book, "Angels Dance, Angels Die is made up of lies and it is not true. Well, I look at this way, Butler did her research. She has taped interviews with her subjects, and her subjects are quoted through out her book. With the exception of the misrepresentation of proceeds going to the Jim Morrison Scholarship Fund at UCLA, there has never been any lawsuits to my knowledge filed against her book in relation to the quotes used. The book can't all be lies that would make everyone she interviewed a liar.

There are some parts that I flat out do not agree with but thats my opinion.

That said, here's a bit of information from Angels Dance, Angels Die that has to do with our conversation in this thread:


Angels Dance, Angels Die Page 192-193

With Bill Siddons help, Pamela had designed a headstone for Jim’s grave. Bill diagrammed the design and sent it, along with enough money to cover the expense, to Agnes Varda for implementation. In his letter, Siddons wrote:

Dear Agnes:

Pam asked I write to you and ask you to take care of getting the stone made up and placed on Jim’s grave. It is the last order of business and you’re the one Pamela trusts to do it,’cause she loves you and you’ve been so good. I have enclosed a diagram taken from the one Pam left me with explanation and if you have any trouble, call me collect. Pam wanted all lettering in capitals and the same size letters through out. The stone should be approximately 4 feet high by 6 inches deep, arched at the top with the enclosed picture put to porcelain at the top of the stone. Below the picture goes the quote, name, and dates drawn. We should leave 18 inches at the bottom clear so the plants will not obsure the name…

“I have no idea why it was never done,” says Siddons.

Note: The quote (as indicated on the drawing says:

(Photo)

WE SHOULD SEE THE GATES BY
MORNING
WE SHOULD BE INSIDE BY
EVENING

JAMES DOUGLAS MORRISON
1943-1971

There should also be a stone or brick border for the ivy or plants to grow within

END.

As we know there was a border stone/concrete that was placed on the plot. This border was there when I visited in 1980, but there was no headstone. The border is still there. I'm not sure of the date/year of which the border was added.

There were/are several people in the Doors camp that claim money was given to Pamela to be used for Jim's grave and it has also been said she used the money to buy drugs.

According to Bill Siddon's letter, the money did not go to Pamela but Agnes Varda. I can't imagine Agnes Varda not doing what was requested of her, but the expense of the headstone that Pamela wanted could have exceeded the sum that was sent.

This is another mystery.


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I also came across these quotes from the same book. Pages 161-162:

Herve Muller: (Jim and Pamela came to his flat for lunch)

"I'll never forget that lunch because Jim didn't get drunk. We talked about everything. We talked just briefly about The Doors and he said for him it was over, he'd left those days behind. He said, "I'm twenty seven - that's too old to be a rock and roll star.'"

Bill Siddons: (Phone conversations with Jim while he was in Paris)

"I spoke to Jim on three separate occasions, he always seemed to be in good spirits, happy to be there, and optimistic. We talked to him about coming back and all we ever got was 'Ah! No plans! I'm having a great time. Maybe someday we'll do another record, but no plans!' Jim was completely noncommittal about The Doors future every time I talked to him."

Cheri Siddons: "I remember sitting in The Doors office one day when Jim and Pam were in Paris, and the three of them were all saying, 'Well let's just dump Jim and let's make an album without him. Who's going to tell him? Who's going to tell him we don't want to work with him anymore?' I was so indignant, so angry. I said, 'I'll tell him.'"

As we know Jim ended up writing a letter to his accountant Bob Greene:





These are my photos from 1980:

[casandra]

Mar 9, 2011 16:47:01 GMT darkstar3 said:

I also came across these quotes from the same book. Pages 161-162:

Herve Muller: (Jim and Pamela came to his flat for lunch)

"I'll never forget that lunch because Jim didn't get drunk. We talked about everything. We talked just briefly about The Doors and he said for him it was over, he'd left those days behind. He said, "I'm twenty seven - that's too old to be a rock and roll star.'"

Hello, Darkstar, here a bit more information. In Hervé Muller’s book "Jim Morrison and The Doors", published in France in 1973 and translated into Spanish in 1975, he wrote as follows (I quote from the Spanish translation), p. 152:

This time [Jim] spoke about the Doors to say definitively that he had finished with them, "I have twenty-seven years old. They are too many years to be a rock and roll singer. It makes no sense."
What about the other group members? "I don’t know, I'm not in touch with them. But I think they will continue, is a fairly easy way to make a lot of money."
While, in Los Angeles, they didn’t know they had lost their singer.

[TheWallsScreamedPoetry]

As you say ADAAD cannot all be lies as nobody has sued her.
She is a bit of a crook for telling lies about the scholarship and I have seen her on the boards and don't like her.
But for all that as you say she spoke to people and they said stuff and nobody contradicted what they said.
So it's safe to conclude that what she writes gives a fair reflection of her conversations.
I actually enjoyed that book but like sara disagree with many of it's assertions.

What Bill said is poignant though.
Pam gets such a bad rap sometimes and here she is doing her best to see Jim gets a decent memorial.
Her idea was far superior to what is there now.
The Doors should use some of the millions that has come in over the last 40 years to do what she envisaged for Jim as a tribute to her loyalty.
Of course they never will as they have much better things to do with their time than that.

Bill should have not had to do this as all The Doors should have been involved with Pam.
I wonder if he ever showed them the drawings and if so what their reaction was?

Cheri's tale is very disturbing and I see no reason why it's made up. She would have said something if Pat Butler put words like that in her mouth so by that token I consider it true that she said that.
Pretty damning indictment on the trio.
But also it has to be noted that it contradicts Cheri's husband who said Jim had left The Doors in February/March.
So as with all of this it's a minefield of confusion.

I like both Bill and Cheri and think them honest folks.
Be nice to hear a lot more from them about what they witnessed

The Doors on the other hand have a record of underhand chicanery and I no longer believe in them at all.
They tell lies.

Whatever the truth Jim's grave is falling apart and The Doors don't give a shit.
They will no doubt use it this summer to sell some crap and will be telling us all of how they miss their friend Jim.
But as actions always speak louder than words.......you can probably fill in the rest yourselves.

[darkstar3]

Mar 9, 2011 17:47:55 GMT casandra said:

Mar 9, 2011 16:47:01 GMT darkstar3 said:

I also came across these quotes from the same book. Pages 161-162:

Herve Muller: (Jim and Pamela came to his flat for lunch)

"I'll never forget that lunch because Jim didn't get drunk. We talked about everything. We talked just briefly about The Doors and he said for him it was over, he'd left those days behind. He said, "I'm twenty seven - that's too old to be a rock and roll star.'"

Hello, Darkstar, here a bit more information. In Hervé Muller’s book "Jim Morrison and The Doors", published in France in 1973 and translated into Spanish in 1975, he wrote as follows (I quote from the Spanish translation), p. 152:

This time [Jim] spoke about the Doors to say definitively that he had finished with them, "I have twenty-seven years old. They are too many years to be a rock and roll singer. It makes no sense."
What about the other group members? "I don’t know, I'm not in touch with them. But I think they will continue, is a fairly easy way to make a lot of money."
While, in Los Angeles, they didn’t know they had lost their singer.

WOW Casandra! Thank you so much for the transcript. I don't have Muller's book because I can't read French.

The quotes you posted certainly brings a lot to this discussion. Thank you.

[adam]

Mar 9, 2011 9:05:57 GMT TheWallsScreamedPoetry said:

But JD has also made some poor decisions nontheless which in my eyes counts against him.

The shoe obviously was a huge mistake and Densmore recognised that I do believe with his comments on his forum.

The December 8th 2008 piss plaque was something he, to his credit, had nothing to do with
.

sorry for my ignorance of the doors world... but...

Shoe

piss plaque

what the fuck are these things?! (i know what shoes & plaques are)

[adam]

am i right in thinking thatt he current config of grave site is because jim's parents paid to have it cleaned up & a new tombstone around the time of the stone movie?

[casandra]

Mar 9, 2011 17:58:15 GMT darkstar3 said:

WOW Casandra! Thank you so much for the transcript. I don't have Muller's book because I can't read French.

The quotes you posted certainly brings a lot to this discussion. Thank you.

Thank you very much. Your calendar is incredible. I enjoy read it a lot. I learn very much with it

Herve Muller's book is very interesting, but the Spanish translation has some errors. It’s from 1975 (when was still censore by Franco dictatorship in Spain). For example, referring to The End, the translator translates the word “Fuck” for the word “Kiss” (besar). When I first read it in the 80's, I thought “funny people are the Americans, they are shocked that Jim Morrison wants to kiss his mother and not wanting to kill his father. Then I was a teenager a little naive...

[darkstar3]

Mar 9, 2011 17:58:58 GMT adam said:

Mar 9, 2011 9:05:57 GMT TheWallsScreamedPoetry said:

But JD has also made some poor decisions nontheless which in my eyes counts against him.

The shoe obviously was a huge mistake and Densmore recognised that I do believe with his comments on his forum.

The December 8th 2008 piss plaque was something he, to his credit, had nothing to do with
.

sorry for my ignorance of the doors world... but...

Shoe

piss plaque

what the fuck are these things?! (i know what shoes & plaques are)

I'll explain the 'Piss Plaque' and Alex can explain the 'Shoe'.

On what would have been Jim' 65th B-day Ray and Robby hooked up with Barney's Beanery to host a birthday party. Remember the Oliver Stone movie where Val Kilmer pissed on the bar? Well, there was a plaque made up and Ray Manzarek was going to point to the spot where Jim supposedly pissed on the bar and the plaque was going to be placed there. There is no evidence whatsoever, other than the Oliver Stone movie that Jim pissed on the bar at Barneys.

As time went on with this story, leading up to the event on December 8 2008, more and more people were getting pissed off at Ray, Robby and their management for such a poor way to celebrate Jim's birthday. Eventually, as the negative comments continued the piss plaque idea was blamed as the owner of Barney's being his idea and management claimed that the plaque would mark where Jim sat at the bar not pissed.

You could only win tickets to this event through KLOS a Los Angeles Radio Station so numbers were very limited. There were cameras set up in Barneys as the event was going on and you could watch it from your computer. I stayed up and watched the event and took notes which I reported back the next day for people who didn't get to witness this spectacle. And it was a spectacle.

In addition to Jim's B-day this was an event that gave the opportunity to flog the new Matrix release. As we know shortly after the Matix CDs were released the shit the fan regarding the false advertising of the CDs which resulted in the LL being taken down, cleaned up and re-established squeaky clean from all remarks associated with the false advertising.

John Densmore refused to participate in this fiasco and held a radio interview instead.

These news stories are from archives:


PRESS RELEASE

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
PRESS CONTACTS:
DOORS CONTACT: Jonathan Wolfson ([e-mail]) [phone]
BARNEY’S BEANERY CONTACT: Marilyn Haese ([e-mail]) [phone]
RHINO CONTACT: Jason Elzy ([e-mail]) [phone]
95.5 KLOS CONTACT: Lucille Fortunato ([e-mail]) [phone]
BARNEY’S BEANERY TO THE DOORS’ JIM MORRISON: “HAPPY 65th BIRTHDAY!”
Legendary Hollywood Restaurant Will Mark Nov. 18 Release of Rhino’s Live at The Matrix 1967 with Ray Manzarek and Robby Krieger on live 95.5 KLOS broadcast hosted by Jim Ladd Dec. 8

LOS ANGELES, Nov. 18, 2008—On December 8, The Doors’ Jim Morrison would have celebrated his 65th birthday. This year, the momentous occasion will be marked at Barney’s Beanery, the legendary West Hollywood hangout on Route 66, which served as a stomping ground and home away from home for the rock icon. Since moving to its current Santa Monica Blvd. location in 1927 from Berkeley, the historic venue has hosted a variety of counter cultural legends over the years from the worlds of avant-garde art, movies, literature and rock and roll.

Both Ray Manzarek and Robby Krieger of The Doors will be on hand that evening for a special live broadcast on L.A. rock station 95.5 KLOS, hosted by famed “Last D.J.,” Jim Ladd. The three will discuss and sign copies of Live at The Matrix 1967, a live CD on The Doors’ Bright Midnight Archives and Rhino Records. The two-CD set, which was recorded in San Francisco over two nights in March ’67, will be available on November 18th. The shows took place shortly before the group broke on through with their hit Summer of Love single, “Light My Fire.” Winners of a 95.5 KLOS contest will get to meet and greet Manzarek and Krieger.

“We decided to celebrate this occasion because Barney’s is a place where Jim Morrison hung out often,” says Barney’s Beanery principal David Houston, who bought the place in 1999 from Erwin Held. He is only the third person to own the famed venue after original founder John “Barney” Anthony and Held. “Whatever point in time you go back to, whoever was making history in pop culture, they seemed to have a foot in the Beanery.”

In the late ‘60s, Morrison and Janis Joplin were regulars at Barney’s Beanery, with Jim famously barred from the dining establishment for allegedly urinating on the bar. Houston will commemorate the event with a memorial plaque to mark the exact place.

“I’m hoping Ray’s incredibly sharp memory will help us locate it,” says Houston. “Wherever he says it happened, that’s where we’ll put it up.”

The locus of The Doors’ history, notes Houston, took place largely in a one-mile radius of the Beanery, with the band’s label Elektra headquarters and Jim’s girlfriend Pam’s clothing boutique on La Cienega Blvd., the group’s offices around the corner, the Alta Cienega Hotel, where Jim often stayed, just down the street, and the Whisky-a-Go-Go, where they regularly performed, just up the block on Sunset.

After opening new Barney’s locations at the Third Street Promenade in Santa Monica in 2004, and in Old Town Pasadena on Colorado Blvd. in 2006, Houston is set to launch two new Beaneries, one later this month in Burbank and another next year in Westwood.

Rhino’s Live at The Matrix 1967 is the fourth of the Bright Midnight Archives releases, and features liner notes by all three surviving members of The Doors and brand-new cover art by renowned San Francisco artist Stanley Mouse. Whereas the three previous collections documented The Doors’ final 1970 tour, this latest edition takes you back to the early days, when the band was still working out arrangements and lyrics.

“This is probably the closest we’ve come to a true document of The Doors without constraints,” says the band’s longtime producer/engineer Bruce Botnick, who worked on the reissue. “You’ve never heard the group quite like this.”
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LOS ANGELES TIMES - NOVEMBER 27 2008

Barney's Beanery: Jim Morrison peed here (on the bar) 2:05 PM PT, Nov 27 2008 You have to be really, really famous -- no, legendary -- to make a restaurant want to put up a memorial plaque marking the exact spot on its bar where you peed in the 1960s. You'd have to be the kind of guy who Val Kilmer played in a movie, the kind of guy who needs guards stationed to this very day -- at your grave -- to protect it from being completely covered in joints, urine and whiskey. The kind of guy whose filthy leather pants (that you never took off and probably wore without underwear) are enshrined at the Hard Rock Cafe.

In short, you'd have to be Jim Morrison, and the place that wants to make a shrine to something arguably really uncool that you did (like peeing on its bar) would have to be West Hollywood's equally legendary (well, sort of) Barney's Beanery.

Consider Barney's the ultimate L.A. roadhouse (with a menu of greasy offerings so lengthy that it shames "War and Peace") and consider this forthcoming plaque a birthday present to Morrison, who would have turned 65 on Dec. 8.

To mark the event Barney's is throwing a birthday bash for the Lizard King. The czar of classic rock DJs, KLOS's Jim Ladd, will host and broadcast live from the event. Morrison's bandmates Ray Manzarek and Robby Krieger will attend, and lead Barney's owner David Houston to the spot where Morrison allegedly marked his beeritory.

"I'm hoping Ray's incredibly sharp memory will help us locate it," said Houston in a news release. "Wherever he says it happened, that's where we'll put it up."

Barney's Beanery, 8447 Santa Monica Blvd., [phone].

-- Jessica Gelt

Source: latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2008/11/barneys-beanery.html

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The Doors star comes alive yet again on his 65th birthday

Jim Morrison would have been 65 today. But even today, he exudes the image of being ‘oh so cool’ and ‘zonked out on god knows what!’ to this generation.

We all know he would have rocked even at 65 if he had been alive. And this year’s Sundance festival, which has a line up of interesting rock ‘n roll and music-themed movies, will pay a tribute to the rock n roll star.

The festival will screen When You’re Strange — a documentary about The Doors from Living in Oblivion’s Tom DiCillo that only uses footage shot between 1966 and 1971 to tell its story. The Lizard King’s musical journey is as intriguing as it is legendary.

Yes, you got to be legendary for a restaurant to want to put up a memorial plaque marking the exact spot on its bar where you peed in the 1960s! This forthcoming plaque is indeed a birthday present to Morrison. And to mark the event Barney’s is also throwing a birthday bash for the Lizard King. Classic rock DJs, KLOS’s Jim Ladd, will host and broadcast live from the event. Morrison’s bandmates Ray Manzarek and Robby Krieger will attend the show and lead Barney’s owner David Houston to the spot Morrison marked for himself.

Yes, the place is as wacky as the man himself. No doubt that his grave has to be protected by guards to stop people from decorating it with urine, whiskey and dope joints on it.

www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1212099

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The Doors Celebrate Jim Morrisons Birthday


The Doors' Ray Manzarek & Robby Krieger


rOBBY kRIEGER cELEbrates Jimbo's Bday

[TheWallsScreamedPoetry]

Mar 9, 2011 18:04:33 GMT adam said:

am i right in thinking thatt he current config of grave site is because jim's parents paid to have it cleaned up & a new tombstone around the time of the stone movie?

Thats correct Adz. It is supposed to have a fund for its upkeep but I have seen none of that this last few years.

Mar 9, 2011 17:58:58 GMT adam said:

sorry for my ignorance of the doors world... but...

Shoe

piss plaque

what the fuck are these things?! (i know what shoes & plaques are)

#Shoe The Doors sell the rights to Jim's face to be plastereed on a Converse sneaker. They do four versions. 2 have The Doors logo on and 2 pictures of Jim.
One of the pictures is of Jim lying down after the Unknown Soldier in Frankfurt.
It looks to someone who does not know what it is as if Jim is laid out drunk or stoned. A few of us questioned this on Densmores board. That fuckwit manager jeff jampol tried to justify it but was made to look an arcehole.
Jampol said ALL The Doors helped with the design of the shoe but then John piped up that he knew of the shoe but had never been consulted about the design.
Another lie for Jampol to go with the litany of lies he has told since he got the job.

#Piss Plaque Jim's 65th birthday in LA. The Doors ie ray and Robby come up with a great wheeze to place a plaque to commemorate the exact spot Jim piss drunk urinated against the bar of barneys Beanery. Manzarek eagerly planned to show them the exact spot even though he was NOT present at the event. Opportunistic bastard.
Anyways the wider rock world shat itself laughing at this and Doors fans got annoyed. Jampol claimed on Densmore board that it was all a mistake and the fault of Barneys and that he had not read the press release properly that was sent out telling a tale of a piss plaque. Once again he was made to look an arce and roundly dismissed (by me anyway) as a fucking liar.

[casandra]

"I'm reading these documents as each partner is asking for 25% to be paid from Jim's Estate to cover future expenses that may or may not be paid to settle the Johnson lawsuit. The amounts are the far right of each document. I could be incorrect and the amount being asked for is $75,000 ($25,000 X 3). What does everyone else see?"

Darkstar, I think in this case, each individual claim for total debt to Morrison Estate (25%), not individually a partial amount. I believe that this is not to add the claim of each individual, ie, 25,000*3=75,000, but only 25,000 (25% of 100,000) which is the part that will be payable from the Morrison Estate if they lose the trial. I think this is to cover all liabilities, since they are sued jointly and severally. I believe they are "jointly and severally liables" for total debt.

[casandra]

I've been thinking about the $250,000 they claimed to Pamela before her death and that the accountant said it is a legal maneuver and I think that is because they dissolved in May, 14, 1973 Doors Productions Corp. Surely it was the capital that was returned to the partnerships in the liquidation and after this capital passed to the new company that would be later (perhaps, Doors Music Co.?). Thus isn’t really a loan.

On this site I found the dissolution date (Corporate events)

www.corporationwiki.com/California/Los-Angeles/doors-productions-corp/39801895.aspx

[kristyob]

Money beats soul.

: )

[TheWallsScreamedPoetry]

That's interesting as the band broke up in Mid March 1973 so the guys must have disolved the partnership around the time The Butts Ban was being formed and Ray was forming his Golden Scarab band.
It was in July/August 73 that speculation was rife that Robby and John may form a new Doors unit with Jess Roden.
Roden was not keen on being seen as a new Morrison and in late August the official announcement was made that the band would not use The Doors name.
Recruitment for The Butts Band had been conducted under The Doors name in London causing a lot of interest in the rock media.
Roden was a well known singer with Bronco and made a solo album which would be released after Butts Band I failed.